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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 12 Jul 19 3.10pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Would Stirlingsays be able to talk us through why gated communities are a long term disaster. I remember suggesting it would be my preference but I was intelligently advised of the societal problems from gated communities. I think Hrolf May have replied to me as well.

Wonít necessarily stop it happening here though. If it benefits the few, right now, who cares about implications in Britain?


We know that all groups act in their own self interest....for obvious reasons people with money are able to do that far more easily.

Moving beyond the reasons why we are here with higher crime and murder rates we can look at where we are in terms of house price segregation and where we are heading with eventual gated communities.

People with money are able to create the environment they want and hence as the social policies continue to fail more of those with money will simply create their own physical barriers.....For the social liberals among them it means that they can continue with their filtered la la land from there.

However, gated communities can only be temporary. If you think about it they won't survive long term. They are a reaction to unpleasant reality not a solution to it.

As population numbers expand and pressure increases what has happened in history will just repeat itself....a lack of social cohesion allied to increasing wealth inequality will mean eventually gated or not those walls will come a tumbling down.

This country was lost back in the sixties.....Powell was right and we are just watching it in slow motion.

In terms of what I think the best course of action is....Don't be poor.....and there is strength in numbers. So do what all those non racists do and move to Essex.

But longer term....I don't really want to think about it and we need the picture to be clearer......maybe automation will come and save the neo liberals via universal basic income or make it even worse....we will have to see.


Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jul 2019 3.30pm)

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 12 Jul 19 3.15pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Everywhere has good and bad areas. Can you not acknowledge that the knife crime is a problem? Perhaps you would like to live in a security compound in Cape Town and say 'nothing to see here' whilst everytime you drive you need a shotgun on the passenger seat to deter robbers?
That is the sort of crime level in certain areas of London right now. Will you be voting for Khan? Wonderful record on everything he has done.

Itís just not though, is it?

People driving around with shotguns? When were you last in London?

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Jul 19 4.05pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Iíd be happy to see gated communities throughout the country.

Not for the decent ordinary folk though, but for the scum.


340,000 decent ordinary folk left London last year. Now multiply that by a decade and we will be living in Detroit.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Jul 19 4.13pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Itís just not though, is it?

People driving around with shotguns? When were you last in London?

Give it time. I didnít think weíd have people being chased and murdered with machetes in Purley.

 


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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 12 Jul 19 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


340,000 decent ordinary folk left London last year. Now multiply that by a decade and we will be living in Detroit.

Out of interest, who are these 340,000 decency ordinary folk and where is this stat from?

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Jul 19 4.23pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Out of interest, who are these 340,000 decency ordinary folk and where is this stat from?

Itís true.

 


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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 12 Jul 19 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Itís true.

Yes but what is?

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Jul 19 6.20pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Out of interest, who are these 340,000 decency ordinary folk and where is this stat from?

Too busy to post a link. Just Google " 340,000 leave left London " and you will find dozens of news articles from the ONS statistic. The middle classes are leaving , the poor are arriving to replace them.

The numbers are a big jump up from 5 or 10 years previously.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 12 Jul 19 6.41pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The worst of it are the decent but poor who feel trapped in those inner cities and surrounding areas.

It's like the nice but dim ones trapped in low set badly behaved classes.


Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jul 2019 6.42pm)

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 12 Jul 19 6.48pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Just read the article about the sentencing of the murder on the train just outside Guildford last year.

The murder has a string of convictions for carrying and offensive weapon and a previous conviction for stabbing his flat mate.

I keep saying the biggest problem is not lack of police on the street, itís simply that we donít send people to prison.

If you stab someone, it should automatically be attempted murder and result in 15 years in prison.

No excuses for self defence. The defendant was already carrying a knife ffs!

A minimum of 28 years sense out a strong message, just a shame we donít do this before people get killed.

 

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Originally posted by jeeagles

Just read the article about the sentencing of the murder on the train just outside Guildford last year.

The murder has a string of convictions for carrying and offensive weapon and a previous conviction for stabbing his flat mate.

I keep saying the biggest problem is not lack of police on the street, itís simply that we donít send people to prison.

If you stab someone, it should automatically be attempted murder and result in 15 years in prison.

No excuses for self defence. The defendant was already carrying a knife ffs!

A minimum of 28 years sense out a strong message, just a shame we donít do this before people get killed.

You might upset them by thinking they cant or havent changed their ways.
Minority report is the way forward

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Jul 19 10.08pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Just read the article about the sentencing of the murder on the train just outside Guildford last year.

The murder has a string of convictions for carrying and offensive weapon and a previous conviction for stabbing his flat mate.

I keep saying the biggest problem is not lack of police on the street, itís simply that we donít send people to prison.

If you stab someone, it should automatically be attempted murder and result in 15 years in prison.

No excuses for self defence. The defendant was already carrying a knife ffs!

A minimum of 28 years sense out a strong message, just a shame we donít do this before people get killed.

HOW Dare you say this, you right wing scumbag. Oh hold on wait a minute, nope I agree with you whole heartedly. Unfortunately the judiciary are an un elected bunch of dickweeds who live in a cotton wool ball world surrounded by high fences around their palatial mansions. More of Wisbechs Betters as he's keen on telling us!!

 


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