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Qeeb12 Flag Calgary 29 Apr 19 4.02pm Send a Private Message to Qeeb12 Add Qeeb12 as a friend

Originally posted by Jonnyg121

I'm sure you're aware this is available to you, but just in case, take a look at the international members option the club offers.
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There's no way I would rely on other HOL members for tickets when flying in from another country.

Thank you!! I will definitely do this next time

 

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Qeeb12 Flag Calgary 29 Apr 19 4.29pm Send a Private Message to Qeeb12 Add Qeeb12 as a friend

**Update**

I escalated the matter with PayPal. They contacted Declansmith and gave him 10 days to reply to my concerns in an effort to have both parties come to a mutual resolution.

He failed to reply by their deadline and as a result they refunded my payment.

 

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Jonnyg121 Flag Tunbridge Wells 03 May 19 8.20pm Send a Private Message to Jonnyg121 Add Jonnyg121 as a friend

Originally posted by Qeeb12

Thank you!! I will definitely do this next time

Ah glad to help, wasn't sure if you had seen it or not...the club do not seem to promote it that much. The tickets are more expensive than buying from a HOL member, but at least they're reliable, I am pretty sure they would accommodate you if you had to change your plans last minute.

 

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exiled eagle Flag Southampton 04 May 19 3.26am Send a Private Message to exiled eagle Add exiled eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jonnyg121

Ah glad to help, wasn't sure if you had seen it or not...the club do not seem to promote it that much. The tickets are more expensive than buying from a HOL member, but at least they're reliable, I am pretty sure they would accommodate you if you had to change your plans last minute.

Mate
I think you are doing the HOL boys that sell tickets a bit of an injustice here.
I have sold tickets on here and also bought tickets from other HOLers with no problem.
I always make sure that the tickets that I sell also go to palace fans and also at face value and that also includes cup final tickets.
If a game is rearranged then there is no problem with getting your money back but if you change your mind and you can’t go for whatever reason we’ll that is down to the buyer.
I live in Southampton and travel up quite a bit but the games I can’t make due to shift work I sell on to other palace fans that need extra tickets.
To say HOLers are unreliable is a bit strong mate

 

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Azerbaijan Eagle 04 May 19 4.45am Send a Private Message to Azerbaijan Eagle Add Azerbaijan Eagle as a friend

I have used this site to buy.
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They currently are selling Bournemouth tickets at face value.

You have to be a Palace Member to be able to buy and the tickets are placed by other Palace Members.

The International Membership I have - that works too but this is a useful addition because the tickets eventually come from Palace's box office.

I am not decrying Hol Members who sell tickets - just highlighting this facility for those who are unaware.

 

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Qeeb12 Flag Calgary 06 May 19 8.18pm Send a Private Message to Qeeb12 Add Qeeb12 as a friend

Originally posted by Jonnyg121

Ah glad to help, wasn't sure if you had seen it or not...the club do not seem to promote it that much. The tickets are more expensive than buying from a HOL member, but at least they're reliable, I am pretty sure they would accommodate you if you had to change your plans last minute.

Definitely had not seen it until you pointed it. Thank you sir!

 

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Jonnyg121 Flag Tunbridge Wells 09 May 19 3.08pm Send a Private Message to Jonnyg121 Add Jonnyg121 as a friend

never said HOL members were unreliable, I said that I would not rely on buying tickets from HOL when travelling abroad, especially when the international membership is available.

There is always a risk, albeit a low risk, that the sale may fall through, whereas buying from the club directly guarantees your ticket.

Originally posted by exiled eagle

Mate
I think you are doing the HOL boys that sell tickets a bit of an injustice here.
I have sold tickets on here and also bought tickets from other HOLers with no problem.
I always make sure that the tickets that I sell also go to palace fans and also at face value and that also includes cup final tickets.
If a game is rearranged then there is no problem with getting your money back but if you change your mind and you can’t go for whatever reason we’ll that is down to the buyer.
I live in Southampton and travel up quite a bit but the games I can’t make due to shift work I sell on to other palace fans that need extra tickets.
To say HOLers are unreliable is a bit strong mate

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 15 Jun 19 6.52pm

This thread is a shambles from start to finish. The bloke is clearly a tout and you're complaining he's a bit sketchy? Who'd have thought?
Like trying to take a drug dealer to court for selling you persil. You do realise that the resale of football tickets, unlike any other sport or entertainment event is illegal under UK law?

At the very worst you broke the law and got done over, put it done to experience and move on.

Secondly, it's you who couldn't make the fixture ffs, if you'd bought it through the box office you wouldn't have got a refund. Declan's only error was not telling you "Sorry, no refunds" from the beginning.
Thirdly, imagine airing all this in public, like you're trying to humiliate the bloke by sharing personal details of his financial situation and his Mrs' email address. Over fifty quid? Reflects on the sort of person you are, surprised the mods didn't have the decency to edit it in the interest of 'two sides to every story'

Lastly, well done for terminating a clearly legitimate ticket source for many people on here. Like f*** is he going to show his face on here again.

 

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 16 Jun 19 8.46am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

This thread is a shambles from start to finish. The bloke is clearly a tout and you're complaining he's a bit sketchy? Who'd have thought?
Like trying to take a drug dealer to court for selling you persil. You do realise that the resale of football tickets, unlike any other sport or entertainment event is illegal under UK law?

At the very worst you broke the law and got done over, put it done to experience and move on.

Secondly, it's you who couldn't make the fixture ffs, if you'd bought it through the box office you wouldn't have got a refund. Declan's only error was not telling you "Sorry, no refunds" from the beginning.
Thirdly, imagine airing all this in public, like you're trying to humiliate the bloke by sharing personal details of his financial situation and his Mrs' email address. Over fifty quid? Reflects on the sort of person you are, surprised the mods didn't have the decency to edit it in the interest of 'two sides to every story'

Lastly, well done for terminating a clearly legitimate ticket source for many people on here. Like f*** is he going to show his face on here again.

No tickets were provided to the purchaser and you're quite right that he won't be selling any tickets on here as he's banned. I'm not sure why you've decided to re-raise an issue that has been resolved by PayPal in favour of the purchaser, except out of a desire to seek out confrontation, which seems to be your main reason for being on this site. Final warning; stay out of matters that don't concern you or you will be joining Mr Smith in the land of the forgotten.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 16 Jun 19 10.41am

Originally posted by bexleydave

No tickets were provided to the purchaser and you're quite right that he won't be selling any tickets on here as he's banned. I'm not sure why you've decided to re-raise an issue that has been resolved by PayPal in favour of the purchaser, except out of a desire to seek out confrontation, which seems to be your main reason for being on this site. Final warning; stay out of matters that don't concern you or you will be joining Mr Smith in the land of the forgotten.

First time I'd seen it Dave and there's absolutely nothing confrontational about my post, you just don't like the content.

If the chap's been banned and had no opportunity to reply with his version, why publish it at all as it's supposedly a warning against doing business with him? His wife's email remains in the public domain so you might want to review that in the interest of fairness, just a polite suggestion.

As for matters that don't concern me, threatening someone with a ban for interacting on an open members' forum seems slightly counter intuitive, but there you go.

 

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becky Flag over the moon 16 Jun 19 11.17am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

First time I'd seen it Dave and there's absolutely nothing confrontational about my post, you just don't like the content.

If the chap's been banned and had no opportunity to reply with his version, why publish it at all as it's supposedly a warning against doing business with him? His wife's email remains in the public domain so you might want to review that in the interest of fairness, just a polite suggestion.

As for matters that don't concern me, threatening someone with a ban for interacting on an open members' forum seems slightly counter intuitive, but there you go.

Between the complaint/warning to others and the ban on the seller, he was given a period of just over 3 weeks to respond, supply the ticket or refund, and also he was aware of this thread about him. So, I would say that he had every opportunity to respond or rectify the situation.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 16 Jun 19 11.30am

Originally posted by becky

Between the complaint/warning to others and the ban on the seller, he was given a period of just over 3 weeks to respond, supply the ticket or refund, and also he was aware of this thread about him. So, I would say that he had every opportunity to respond or rectify the situation.

Be that as it may, I stand by the original post. As he was probably loaning a season ticket based on what others have said, I'm not sure what the merit would be in sending a season ticket to Canada for a game that the buyer can't attend, for it to them (hopefully) be sent back again.
Also, we don't know whether Declan was out of pocket himself. He might have laid out for the ticket and not had chance to shift it on.

If there's a date change and the buyer can't make it, I don't know of any instance where the liability falls to the seller.

PayPal gave his money back, Declan has probably been banned from PayPal, had his personal details including an email address advertised and been banned from this site. Others who have bought tickets from him who wouldn't usually have access to palace games now have an avenue shut off

Seems like a proportionate solution...

 

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