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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Jun 19 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The latest figures apropos Conservative MPs voting intentions (Top six) :

Johnson 30, Gove 29, Hunt 29,Raab 23, Javid 17, Hancock 11.

Labour will get their advertising agencies and MP tv interview message ready for a GE if Hunt becomes leader with his dealings in the NHS.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jun 19 2.03pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Labour will get their advertising agencies and MP tv interview message ready for a GE if Hunt becomes leader with his dealings in the NHS.

If Hunt is against Johnson in the final two, Johnson will win as he has the majority support amongst Conservative members.In fact Johnson will win against any other candidate in a head-to-head.There is very strong support for Johnson amongst the many Tory members I have spoken to with scant little support for Hunt.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Jun 19 2.24pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

If Hunt is against Johnson in the final two, Johnson will win as he has the majority support amongst Conservative members.In fact Johnson will win against any other candidate in a head-to-head.There is very strong support for Johnson amongst the many Tory members I have spoken to with scant little support for Hunt.

The trouble is that the members only get to vote on whoever the MPs want them to vote on and they will move heaven and earth to make sure that Boris isn't in the playoff finals

 

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View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 03 Jun 19 2.51pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Hunt ffs. Gove?

They're all c***s anyway. Both them and Labour are f***ing atrocious.

Main stream politics is finished.

Imagine voting for Corbyn to be PM, what an absolute c*** you'd have to be. Likewise anyone from this shower of arseholes on the Tory side. And as for Cable?

Why even bother tipping out to vote.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 03 Jun 19 4.37pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Hunt ffs. Gove?

They're all c***s anyway. Both them and Labour are f***ing atrocious.

Main stream politics is finished.

Imagine voting for Corbyn to be PM, what an absolute c*** you'd have to be. Likewise anyone from this shower of arseholes on the Tory side. And as for Cable?

Why even bother tipping out to vote.

I have to agree - how on Earth is someone as utterly incompetent as Hunt even a candidate? He couldnít have performed much worst as Health Minister, and yet heís got a chance at being PM - speaks volumes to the state of the two main parties at the moment.

I havenít a clue where my next vote goes.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Jun 19 5.13pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Hunt ffs. Gove?

They're all c***s anyway. Both them and Labour are f***ing atrocious.

Main stream politics is finished.

Imagine voting for Corbyn to be PM, what an absolute c*** you'd have to be. Likewise anyone from this shower of arseholes on the Tory side. And as for Cable?

Why even bother tipping out to vote.

Iíve heard mainstream politics is dead so many times. It isnít, and probably wonít be until FPTP is changed.

 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag The toppermost of the poppermost 04 Jun 19 10.20am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The trouble is that the members only get to vote on whoever the MPs want them to vote on and they will move heaven and earth to make sure that Boris isn't in the playoff finals

Get your money on Raab.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jun 19 10.27am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Latest figures (Top six) apropos Conservative MPs voting intentions :

Johnson 42, Hunt 32, Gove 29, Raab 24, Javid 17, Hancock 11.

Edited by Willo (04 Jun 2019 10.28am)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Jun 19 10.34am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Iíve heard mainstream politics is dead so many times. It isnít, and probably wonít be until FPTP is changed.

If the issue is the quality of MPs I am not sure changing the voting system will help.

I would prefer beefing up the qualifications to stand as an MP e.g. minimum 5 years working in the real world. The SNP had one MP who was still in the first year of her university studies what on earth did she know about life.

As for abolishing FPTP that just gives you coalition governments like Tory / Lib or Tory DUP and people are always complaining about that.

Edited by Badger11 (04 Jun 2019 10.38am)

 


One more point

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag The toppermost of the poppermost 04 Jun 19 11.27am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

If the issue is the quality of MPs I am not sure changing the voting system will help.

I would prefer beefing up the qualifications to stand as an MP e.g. minimum 5 years working in the real world. The SNP had one MP who was still in the first year of her university studies what on earth did she know about life.

As for abolishing FPTP that just gives you coalition governments like Tory / Lib or Tory DUP and people are always complaining about that.

Edited by Badger11 (04 Jun 2019 10.38am)

Unless you lived during WW2, we've only seen one coalition government and even that wasn't a genuine coalition as Clegg became Cameron's bitch from the start (an opportunity missed for the Lib Dems but that's another story).

One party commanding a huge majority is, in my view, unhealthy for democracy, especially when that majority has been achieved via a skewed electoral system. PR is far, far more representative and whilst it may produce more hung parliaments, it makes politicians much more accountable to the electorate and that cannot be a bad thing.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 04 Jun 19 12.02pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Problem is they will all "play the game".

"The game" as controlled by the MSM is the real problem because it panders to political correctness (inability to touch certain issues or use language freely mainly through fear of the press), minorities (Islam, anyone who is not white and LGBTxyz) and special interest groups (especially the climate mafia).

The reason why Trump succeeded is he refused to apologize and had the guts to go after his opponents at full tilt. Bolsonaro and Salvini are similar in that respect.

Don't think even Farage has it in him to do that so unless someone turns up who can I'm not hopeful that we avoid major civil unrest. Our natural instinct for / culture of, politeness is our undoing.

 

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View robdave2k's Profile robdave2k Flag Corby 04 Jun 19 12.21pm Send a Private Message to robdave2k Add robdave2k as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yes I know. Iíd possibly give it to Andrea Leadsome. (The leadership)

Real life business experience, and at board level, in several top places.

And an utterly horrible woman to work with. And also out of her depth.

 

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