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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 04 Jun 19 12.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Problem is they will all "play the game".

"The game" as controlled by the MSM is the real problem because it panders to political correctness (inability to touch certain issues or use language freely mainly through fear of the press), minorities (Islam, anyone who is not white and LGBTxyz) and special interest groups (especially the climate mafia).

The reason why Trump succeeded is he refused to apologize and had the guts to go after his opponents at full tilt. Bolsonaro and Salvini are similar in that respect.

Don't think even Farage has it in him to do that so unless someone turns up who can I'm not hopeful that we avoid major civil unrest. Our natural instinct for / culture of, politeness is our undoing.


Yep, it's a good summary. The country isn't polarized enough yet for a Farage. He succeeds on Brexit because....well, he's Mr Brexit.

As the demographic map shifts and more of the country get to experience the reality instead of the fantasy the polarisation will increase.

That much I'm pretty sure about.....what happens outside of that is more speculative.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jun 2019 12.25pm)

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Jun 19 1.18pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Problem is they will all "play the game".

"The game" as controlled by the MSM is the real problem because it panders to political correctness (inability to touch certain issues or use language freely mainly through fear of the press), minorities (Islam, anyone who is not white and LGBTxyz) and special interest groups (especially the climate mafia).

The reason why Trump succeeded is he refused to apologize and had the guts to go after his opponents at full tilt. Bolsonaro and Salvini are similar in that respect.

Don't think even Farage has it in him to do that so unless someone turns up who can I'm not hopeful that we avoid major civil unrest. Our natural instinct for / culture of, politeness is our undoing.

Good post.

 

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 04 Jun 19 9.07pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

 


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View Sportyteacher's Profile Sportyteacher Flag London 04 Jun 19 9.50pm Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Sinks head in hands

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 05 Jun 19 8.13am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I think the leadership contest will become clearer now that the Tory party has changed the rules. The vanity candidates "Surry's favourite son" will withdraw as they can't get the required number of MPs.

We should be down to the deadly duo within the next 2 weeks.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jun 19 9.08am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I think the leadership contest will become clearer now that the Tory party has changed the rules. The vanity candidates "Surry's favourite son" will withdraw as they can't get the required number of MPs.

We should be down to the deadly duo within the next 2 weeks.

Under the new rules, candidates will need to win 5% of votes (16 MPs) in the first ballot and 10% (32 MPs) in the second to proceed.

If all the candidates exceed this threshold, the person with the fewest votes will be eliminated, a process that will continue in subsequent rounds until only two remain.

The first ballot will take place on Thursday 13 June, with further rounds of voting scheduled for 18, 19 and 20 of June.Party members will get to question the final two candidates in a series of hustings beginning in the week of 22 June.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jun 19 10.07am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Latest Conservative MP support numbers for the top six :

Johnson 46, Hunt 32, Gove 29, Raab 24, Javid 17, Hancock 11.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Jun 19 10.11am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Anyone good put there doesnít want to be an MP first. Thatís the problem. Or they get moulded or damaged or restricted if they do become an MP.

 


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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 05 Jun 19 11.25am Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

What we need is a GE and for Nigel Farage to get in

 


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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 05 Jun 19 2.33pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Latest Conservative MP support numbers for the top six :

Johnson 46, Hunt 32, Gove 29, Raab 24, Javid 17, Hancock 11.

It seems to me that Boris' main challenge was getting enough MPs onside to get into the top two. His numbers are looking very healthy now though, so it's hard to imagine that he won't be top two, and become the next PM. Unless people switching allegiances during the process. What's your read of it?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jun 19 2.42pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays


It seems to me that Boris' main challenge was getting enough MPs onside to get into the top two. His numbers are looking very healthy now though, so it's hard to imagine that he won't be top two, and become the next PM. Unless people switching allegiances during the process. What's your read of it?

There's a 'School of thought' which advocates that certain candidates are not revealing MPs who support them and will do so at an opportune time so that they are seen to be gaining momentum.

Apropos the numbers, as candiadtes are eliminated their supporters switch their votes to someone else so it's a fluid situation.

Edited by Willo (05 Jun 2019 4.59pm)

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 05 Jun 19 3.53pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

There a 'School of thought' which advocates that certain candidates are not revealing MPs who support them and will do so at an opportune time so that they are seen to be gaining momentum.

Apropos the numbers, as candiadtes are eliminated their supporters switch their votes to someone else so it's a fluid situation.

Yes, in the past the switches after elimination has certainly shaken things up. The level of support at this stage is certainly looking very good for him though I'd say.

 

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