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 Stirlingsays  04 Jun 19 12.24pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Problem is they will all "play the game". "The game" as controlled by the MSM is the real problem because it panders to political correctness (inability to touch certain issues or use language freely mainly through fear of the press), minorities (Islam, anyone who is not white and LGBTxyz) and special interest groups (especially the climate mafia). The reason why Trump succeeded is he refused to apologize and had the guts to go after his opponents at full tilt. Bolsonaro and Salvini are similar in that respect. Don't think even Farage has it in him to do that so unless someone turns up who can I'm not hopeful that we avoid major civil unrest. Our natural instinct for / culture of, politeness is our undoing.
As the demographic map shifts and more of the country get to experience the reality instead of the fantasy the polarisation will increase. That much I'm pretty sure about.....what happens outside of that is more speculative. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jun 2019 12.25pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 04 Jun 19 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Problem is they will all "play the game". "The game" as controlled by the MSM is the real problem because it panders to political correctness (inability to touch certain issues or use language freely mainly through fear of the press), minorities (Islam, anyone who is not white and LGBTxyz) and special interest groups (especially the climate mafia). The reason why Trump succeeded is he refused to apologize and had the guts to go after his opponents at full tilt. Bolsonaro and Salvini are similar in that respect. Don't think even Farage has it in him to do that so unless someone turns up who can I'm not hopeful that we avoid major civil unrest. Our natural instinct for / culture of, politeness is our undoing. Good post.
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| DANGERCLOSE london 04 Jun 19 9.07pm |
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| Sportyteacher London 04 Jun 19 9.50pm |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
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| Badger11 Beckenham 05 Jun 19 8.13am |
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I think the leadership contest will become clearer now that the Tory party has changed the rules. The vanity candidates "Surry's favourite son" will withdraw as they can't get the required number of MPs. We should be down to the deadly duo within the next 2 weeks.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jun 19 9.08am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I think the leadership contest will become clearer now that the Tory party has changed the rules. The vanity candidates "Surry's favourite son" will withdraw as they can't get the required number of MPs. We should be down to the deadly duo within the next 2 weeks. Under the new rules, candidates will need to win 5% of votes (16 MPs) in the first ballot and 10% (32 MPs) in the second to proceed. If all the candidates exceed this threshold, the person with the fewest votes will be eliminated, a process that will continue in subsequent rounds until only two remain. The first ballot will take place on Thursday 13 June, with further rounds of voting scheduled for 18, 19 and 20 of June.Party members will get to question the final two candidates in a series of hustings beginning in the week of 22 June.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jun 19 10.07am |
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Latest Conservative MP support numbers for the top six : Johnson 46, Hunt 32, Gove 29, Raab 24, Javid 17, Hancock 11.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Jun 19 10.11am |
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Anyone good put there doesn’t want to be an MP first. That’s the problem. Or they get moulded or damaged or restricted if they do become an MP.
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| DANGERCLOSE london 05 Jun 19 11.25am |
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What we need is a GE and for Nigel Farage to get in
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| deleted user 05 Jun 19 2.33pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Latest Conservative MP support numbers for the top six : Johnson 46, Hunt 32, Gove 29, Raab 24, Javid 17, Hancock 11. It seems to me that Boris' main challenge was getting enough MPs onside to get into the top two. His numbers are looking very healthy now though, so it's hard to imagine that he won't be top two, and become the next PM. Unless people switching allegiances during the process. What's your read of it?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jun 19 2.42pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
There's a 'School of thought' which advocates that certain candidates are not revealing MPs who support them and will do so at an opportune time so that they are seen to be gaining momentum. Apropos the numbers, as candiadtes are eliminated their supporters switch their votes to someone else so it's a fluid situation. Edited by Willo (05 Jun 2019 4.59pm)
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| deleted user 05 Jun 19 3.53pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
There a 'School of thought' which advocates that certain candidates are not revealing MPs who support them and will do so at an opportune time so that they are seen to be gaining momentum. Apropos the numbers, as candiadtes are eliminated their supporters switch their votes to someone else so it's a fluid situation. Yes, in the past the switches after elimination has certainly shaken things up. The level of support at this stage is certainly looking very good for him though I'd say.
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