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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Jul 19 7.32pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

to everybody who is digging out parish...

what do you do for a living?
are you perfect?
when was the last time you earnt a promotion?
do you ever make mistakes?
have you ever left a sector you know inside out & been successful in your new sector everytime?


Perhaps you don't understand the concept of a discussion forum

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 10 Jul 19 7.45pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Perhaps you don't understand the concept of a discussion forum

perhaps i understand exactly how a forum works...

perhaps i want to understand how (for example) if people brought a VW they expect to have a say in how the company is run.

perhaps i just want to understand more about the people who want to pick fault in everything other people do when everybody is far from perfect...

 


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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

perhaps i understand exactly how a forum works...

perhaps i want to understand how (for example) if people brought a VW they expect to have a say in how the company is run.

perhaps i just want to understand more about the people who want to pick fault in everything other people do when everybody is far from perfect...

21st Century living.

Sadly.

 


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View zico murphy's Profile zico murphy Flag woking 10 Jul 19 10.22pm Send a Private Message to zico murphy Add zico murphy as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

to everybody who is digging out parish...

what do you do for a living?
are you perfect?
when was the last time you earnt a promotion?
do you ever make mistakes?
have you ever left a sector you know inside out & been successful in your new sector everytime?

if i was him i would come on here & tell you guys to swivel...thats why i am not in his position.

I couldnít agree more

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 11 Jul 19 1.18pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

I can understand people wanting to discuss the clubs actions, and of course there will be some things SP or DF have done which either at the time or with the gift of hindsight we might not all agree with, but the idea that anyone could actually be Ďantií Parish is so remarkable as to beggar belief.

Just glance for one moment at the long and growing list of clowns, crooks, attention-seekers and vultures who have run so many football clubs in this Country into the ground.

Some of them (Mark Goldberg anyone?) mean well but donít know what they are doing. SP has taken a seriously failing business out of receivership and into the rudest of economic health.

Some use their clubs to line their own pockets at the expense of the clubs financial strength. Under SP we have broken our transfer record time and again, and put our balls on the line paying the proper market rate in wages. When we stop spending itís because, as has been explained time and again by SP, FFP restricts us.

Some arrive in a blaze of (self) publicity and promise the earth before realising that actually itís not that easy and slinking away back where they came from, becoming absentee owners with a puppet administration on the ground. SP is at reserve and youth games, lives and breathes CPFC every day. He has worked hard to get the academy up to scratch, to own our own training ground again, to build a new stand. This is the kind of long term legacy of a man who cares. The short-term owner doesnít make this kind of investment, he just blows all the money on mercenary players until it all burns out, then shrugs his shoulders while the club implodes (Portsmouth, Leeds etc).

Finally, and most mind-bogglingly of all, the anti-Parish brigade do actually know that we are living in the golden age of Crystal Palace? I mean what exactly have you not enjoyed about leaving administration, getting promoted, staying up for the longest period in our history, beating Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc and reaching a cup final?

Amazing.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (11 Jul 2019 1.19pm)

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Jul 19 1.53pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I can understand people wanting to discuss the clubs actions, and of course there will be some things SP or DF have done which either at the time or with the gift of hindsight we might not all agree with, but the idea that anyone could actually be Ďantií Parish is so remarkable as to beggar belief.

Just glance for one moment at the long and growing list of clowns, crooks, attention-seekers and vultures who have run so many football clubs in this Country into the ground.

Some of them (Mark Goldberg anyone?) mean well but donít know what they are doing. SP has taken a seriously failing business out of receivership and into the rudest of economic health.

Some use their clubs to line their own pockets at the expense of the clubs financial strength. Under SP we have broken our transfer record time and again, and put our balls on the line paying the proper market rate in wages. When we stop spending itís because, as has been explained time and again by SP, FFP restricts us.

Some arrive in a blaze of (self) publicity and promise the earth before realising that actually itís not that easy and slinking away back where they came from, becoming absentee owners with a puppet administration on the ground. SP is at reserve and youth games, lives and breathes CPFC every day. He has worked hard to get the academy up to scratch, to own our own training ground again, to build a new stand. This is the kind of long term legacy of a man who cares. The short-term owner doesnít make this kind of investment, he just blows all the money on mercenary players until it all burns out, then shrugs his shoulders while the club implodes (Portsmouth, Leeds etc).

Finally, and most mind-bogglingly of all, the anti-Parish brigade do actually know that we are living in the golden age of Crystal Palace? I mean what exactly have you not enjoyed about leaving administration, getting promoted, staying up for the longest period in our history, beating Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc and reaching a cup final?

Amazing.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (11 Jul 2019 1.19pm)

Itís nothing to do with reporting over £30 mil of losses per year over 2 years then.

Parish has made some good calls when required like:

The Bristol City car park chat with DF when Parish had a good idea Zaha would be gone to plug the £5 mil annual losses at the time, against DFís wishes actually.

Hiring Holloway, Pulis, Allardyce, Roy, even Pardew, when each were perfect at that present time, even if all but Roy were so obvious even to rugby fans, and immediately available, with a dollop of dithering in between.

Signing Zaha against Pulisís wishes, which is a big reason weíre still here, but we have to manage without him at some point so itís either with money or later without.

But the jury is still out quite a bit considering weíve remained here largely because of spending sums we shouldnít be or canít, because the setup is wrong, former players are hired as yes men and heís been correcting the mistakes and the taking chances with lack of cover in certain positions to the point we become a joke.

Weíve been operating like a club with a 35,000 following and the investment of the US shareholders has been a little pointless, possibly holding us back and being part of the issue with their wish to sign expensively and then pull the plug.

What happens after this part of our Prem cycle of spend and now conserve? Well that is quite the time to see how we come through it, what life is like after Zaha has gone and weíve used the Zaha and AWBís transfer money, and after repaying the US investors which will again show them to be just a stop gap and nothing more.

I look forward to a boring season of hopefully survival, as safe as possible, while I cross my fingers like Parish is for a saviour to buy them all out because without that our future isnít that marvellous because of the desperate spending to remain here.

Itís sure not easy but I donít buy into this master stroke stuff considering how itís been done. Time to get it all sorted out and under control. Can he and they do it? Weíll see.

Or I suppose you could say he gambled a bit on an expensive core of players and risked it a bit without the kind of cover a Prem team needs. Whatever, itís how we come through these testing times that taking a while because of how weíve operated, or not behind the scenes.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (11 Jul 2019 2.03pm)

 


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View radsyrendot's Profile radsyrendot Flag From Coventry now in Leicester 11 Jul 19 2.11pm Send a Private Message to radsyrendot Add radsyrendot as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

I wouldn't buy A VW to over priced

perhaps i understand exactly how a forum works...

perhaps i want to understand how (for example) if people brought a VW they expect to have a say in how the company is run.

perhaps i just want to understand more about the people who want to pick fault in everything other people do when everybody is far from perfect...

 

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View zico murphy's Profile zico murphy Flag woking 11 Jul 19 2.21pm Send a Private Message to zico murphy Add zico murphy as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I can understand people wanting to discuss the clubs actions, and of course there will be some things SP or DF have done which either at the time or with the gift of hindsight we might not all agree with, but the idea that anyone could actually be Ďantií Parish is so remarkable as to beggar belief.

Just glance for one moment at the long and growing list of clowns, crooks, attention-seekers and vultures who have run so many football clubs in this Country into the ground.

Some of them (Mark Goldberg anyone?) mean well but donít know what they are doing. SP has taken a seriously failing business out of receivership and into the rudest of economic health.

Some use their clubs to line their own pockets at the expense of the clubs financial strength. Under SP we have broken our transfer record time and again, and put our balls on the line paying the proper market rate in wages. When we stop spending itís because, as has been explained time and again by SP, FFP restricts us.

Some arrive in a blaze of (self) publicity and promise the earth before realising that actually itís not that easy and slinking away back where they came from, becoming absentee owners with a puppet administration on the ground. SP is at reserve and youth games, lives and breathes CPFC every day. He has worked hard to get the academy up to scratch, to own our own training ground again, to build a new stand. This is the kind of long term legacy of a man who cares. The short-term owner doesnít make this kind of investment, he just blows all the money on mercenary players until it all burns out, then shrugs his shoulders while the club implodes (Portsmouth, Leeds etc).

Finally, and most mind-bogglingly of all, the anti-Parish brigade do actually know that we are living in the golden age of Crystal Palace? I mean what exactly have you not enjoyed about leaving administration, getting promoted, staying up for the longest period in our history, beating Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc and reaching a cup final?

Amazing.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (11 Jul 2019 1.19pm)


Very good post, I think hits the nail on the head

 

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