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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 16 Jul 19 12.51pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

Anyone out there with any Experience or Advice ? Company I work for have just promoted Some relatively new employees to a superior rota pattern by wait for it ? Drawing names out of a hat ! Can that be right ? Big National Company , They Claim it’s Equality ?

 

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Originally posted by AERO

Anyone out there with any Experience or Advice ? Company I work for have just promoted Some relatively new employees to a superior rota pattern by wait for it ? Drawing names out of a hat ! Can that be right ? Big National Company , They Claim it’s Equality ?

It's my thing

Yup, they can do that unless you can show that the approach is detrimental in some fashion to a 'protected group'. Management prerogative. Seems pretty bizarre though. Got a Union?

 

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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 16 Jul 19 1.11pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

Thanks yes got a union, but to be honest not much use ,But just seems so unprofessional for a major company to do this rather than go for a certain criteria Experience/service etc

 

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Originally posted by AERO

Anyone out there with any Experience or Advice ? Company I work for have just promoted Some relatively new employees to a superior rota pattern by wait for it ? Drawing names out of a hat ! Can that be right ? Big National Company , They Claim it’s Equality ?

Let me take a punt.

Example: Employer says some people need to work night shift others day shift, no one wants to work the night shift. A ballot is abitrary but fair the alternative is something like length of service or buggins turn which is grossly unfair. The post office operated this which meant the longer serving staff had all the cushy jobs and didn't put in a shift whilst the new staff took the brunt.

I agree it's not nice if you are stuck on the bad shift but I think you would need to show the employer a valid reason why you need to work that new shift? Family commitments or religious reasons something like that. I'm afraid "I just fancy the new shift" probably won't get it done.

Anyway I hope you resolve it satisfactorily, maybe you could trade with one of the winners?

 


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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 16 Jul 19 1.21pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

No it was a case where the new guys got the chance to go into the hat with the long service guys, and guess what? all the new guys got picked out to get the cushy shift ,Leaving the long standing employees to do the leftovers !!! Doesn’t sit right

 

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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 16 Jul 19 1.24pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

In this day and age it Should not be down to a sweepstake where future work schedules are involved .

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 16 Jul 19 1.25pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

They can do this if they choose to I don't see what the issue is.

Nothing against any employment laws.

If you are not happy leave look for a job with another company.

Work places are never loyal to you so you shouldn't be to them always been on the look out.

Edited by grumpymort (16 Jul 2019 1.26pm)

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Jul 19 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by AERO

In this day and age it Should not be down to a sweepstake where future work schedules are involved .

Is it the type of company that does an employee engagement survey and has a strong view of its culture and behaviours? If so maybe you could use that as a lever.

 

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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 16 Jul 19 1.42pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

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If you are not happy leave look for a job with another company.

Work places are never loyal to you so you shouldn't be to them always been on the look out.

Edited by grumpymort (16 Jul 2019 1.26pm). Thanks Never thought about that what a great idea !

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Jul 19 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by AERO

No it was a case where the new guys got the chance to go into the hat with the long service guys, and guess what? all the new guys got picked out to get the cushy shift ,Leaving the long standing employees to do the leftovers !!! Doesn’t sit right

Then that suggests that the ballot was rigged in which case you have a case.

 


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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 16 Jul 19 2.05pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

Thanks Badger 11 . Pretty sure it was but proving it is another matter.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 19 2.13pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Did you get an interview? Were these better positions? If you got an interview, how was it scored? Were positions advertised correctly? Who oversaw such a sweepstake? Was it an open process?
Have you written asking for reasons on paper and would the company be able to offer a reasonable response?
I'm thinking in any legal case a company is not going to look good just randomly selecting people. However, from my questions, you can probably tell that this could be quite a complicated case.
My advice is this: write to the company formally requesting how you have been overlooked. This may give them a push in the right direction.
Simultaneously, write a much stronger letter complaining to the union. At the least, you will see if they are in cahoots. Be very suspicious if neither reply.
Particularly, if you are unhappy with responses, find out which solicitors have had recent dealings with employment hearings against the company. You may know someone who has recently had a settlement. Often, they are not allowed to say anything but you can guarantee they will tell you in private - as they will still actively dislike the organisation.
There are certain solicitors that companies are afraid of and will generally cave into. Sometimes just a consultation and a letter from them can have the desired effect.
These are just some things from the top of my head but I believe you have nothing to lose by writing a couple of well-worded letters. Could put the cat amongst the pigeons, so to speak.

 


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