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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Feb 20 9.41am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

Benteke scored goals under managers Pardew and Big Sam,as he did for Villa and at International level with Belgium.
Hodgson's defensive mindset tactics do not work for him as is evidenced in his lack of goals under this failing regime.

Rather than making any point about Benteke specifically, I was pointing out that spending money alone does not guarantee anything. Players have to be the right type of player too.

 


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Bentenke just takes too long to make a decision these days. I don't know why, but when you watch him he no longer seems to have any striker's instinct and those few extra seconds he needs allows defenders to recover. You can't blame Roy for that. With regard to Wilf and Andros, last season Zaha was very effective at cutting in so that he could shoot with his right foot and similarly Townsend did the same from the right. The issue for me is not that they are on the wrong sides but that only one of them has been fit this season and he has not been the same player he was last season (aside from two or three games). Furthermore, how often does Wilf beat one, two even three defenders only to cut it back to the edge of the 6-yard box and there be no striker. Also, when Andros plays on the right he cuts back and effectively delivers crosses which curl in towards the goal. Zaha, to my memory, does not deliver high crosses very often and prefers to deliver low balls with his left or right foot.

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Giving next season a miss' by Midlands Eagle

Itís going to be a relegation year next year, more dull unexciting football, no kids coming through, no decent signings. Will wait until we are back in the Championship. Flush out the American owners who have done nothing for this club since they have been here, change the whole leadership team and start again. Games on Saturday at 3.00, chance of exciting football, no big money clubs killing the game for global revenues, whatís not to like?

 

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Youíre a bundle of fun
I would kill to see one or two games in any division

 


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IMO being a Palace fan is all about taking a perverse amount of pride in the team being utterly s*** most of the time.

Don't renew your season ticket or watch every match if you don't want to, but I don't think you can fully pause your support of the team and still consider yourself a fan.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Feb 20 11.23am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Bangell

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IMO being a Palace fan is all about taking a perverse amount of pride in the team being utterly s*** most of the time.

Don't renew your season ticket or watch every match if you don't want to, but I don't think you can fully pause your support of the team and still consider yourself a fan.

Does anyone remember Division Three or the Mullery era?
Perhaps the Peter Taylor reign was more their scene.

I know we are hopeless in front of goal and dragging our heals on building the new stand but let's keep things in a proper context. This is our best ever period of sustained top flight football by miles, ever.
Survival is like winning the league for us until something miraculous happens.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Does anyone remember Division Three or the Mullery era?
Perhaps the Peter Taylor reign was more their scene.

I know we are hopeless in front of goal and dragging our heals on building the new stand but let's keep things in a proper context. This is our best ever period of sustained top flight football by miles, ever.
Survival is like winning the league for us until something miraculous happens.

The Mullery period was the worst in the clubs history, without any doubt. The Big Mals adventures in the old Div 3 were quite enjoyable and it did lead to the eventual promotion in 79.
This current period is the most successful, despite questionable decisions being made by the board.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Feb 20 12.05pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Bentenke just takes too long to make a decision these days. I don't know why, but when you watch him he no longer seems to have any striker's instinct and those few extra seconds he needs allows defenders to recover. You can't blame Roy for that. With regard to Wilf and Andros, last season Zaha was very effective at cutting in so that he could shoot with his right foot and similarly Townsend did the same from the right. The issue for me is not that they are on the wrong sides but that only one of them has been fit this season and he has not been the same player he was last season (aside from two or three games). Furthermore, how often does Wilf beat one, two even three defenders only to cut it back to the edge of the 6-yard box and there be no striker. Also, when Andros plays on the right he cuts back and effectively delivers crosses which curl in towards the goal. Zaha, to my memory, does not deliver high crosses very often and prefers to deliver low balls with his left or right foot.

I think Zaha canít lift the ball with his weaker left foot rather than chooses to deliver low balls.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Feb 20 12.16pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

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Itís going to be a relegation year next year, more dull unexciting football, no kids coming through, no decent signings. Will wait until we are back in the Championship. Flush out the American owners who have done nothing for this club since they have been here, change the whole leadership team and start again. Games on Saturday at 3.00, chance of exciting football, no big money clubs killing the game for global revenues, whatís not to like?

Iím not that confident of us flushing out the Americans after relegation, how it would happen or if it would be any better. But thatís the unknown, or be careful what you wish for. Relegation would be financially crippling with the contracts and ageing players on big wages few clubs will want. It could take a few years before you get your enjoyment back in the championship after weíve probably been tonked by everyone more often than not, including millwall again and again, probably Charlton and possibly Brighton in at least one cup.

This is why all the praise for Parish overseeing our most successful period in our history is on hold for me. Because itís built on sand with zero foundations beneath it. If we do overhaul the squad with the healthier and more sustainable mix of players then Iíll say fair play to Parish and accept relegation in the knowledge weíre in a good place. Without that itís just been buying experienced players near retirement in big wages. There isnít anything clever about that in the long term. Itís just delaying the inevitable and making it worse when it happens.

Overhaul the squad and use whatever strategy or cash from Zaha effectively is what Iím waiting to see us do.

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 07 Feb 20 1.10pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

How can you ď flush ď people out when itís known that they want to sell anyway !?!

And I would expect their investment to take a huge knock if we are relegated.

Itís obvious that the club is not being run on a sustainable level at the moment.

A reset is needed but my problem is that I have little faith in the people making decisions at the club

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Feb 20 3.10pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

It's not all doom and gloom. The manager and board know we need to freshen things up and have identified targets to strengthen the squad. Freeman's been working his socks off and has identified a couple of gems. Some Murray guy from Brighton and some fella called Bolasie are on their way to Selhurst in the summer.

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 07 Feb 20 6.07pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Acccording to Roy we only tried to get Bowen on loan and he all but admitted that we weren't in a position to buy him

Loan to buy I thought. And things like that do depend on the terms.

Like it or not, we probably would have needed to outbid West Ham. Our investments at that level MUST work, as Tekkers and Sakho proved.

From what I saw they went to 22m and gave a relegation clause. Quite high. Not saying no.

 

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