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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 15 Nov 19 5.16pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Hmm, now let me think about that one. Could it possibly be because their players at youth level are a lot better than ours?
Or maybe you know of a Foden, a Mount or an Abraham kicking around in our reserves? No? Thought not.
The old saying if you are good enough you are old enough is often spot on. Its equally correct to say if you are never going to be good enough no one cares how old you are. Maybe you should remember that?

Abraham and Foden were on the club's books at 8 whilst Mount was 6. Unfortunately Palace was probably skirting administration around then. Citeh and Chelski were fighting at the top of the PL. Think we might need a fair few years before we see a steady stream from the academy.

Edited by Booted Eagle (15 Nov 2019 5.18pm)

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 15 Nov 19 10.10pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Perhaps we don't have the quality of youngsters they possess and of course circumstances play their part.

In terms of Chelsea,the homegrown players they have used this season have had successful loan spells away,albeit at a lower level IE Abraham, Mount,James,Mount,Reece.

So good you named him twice

 

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View ARGILE OLD GEEZER's Profile ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 16 Nov 19 8.10am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

So what has been going on at CPFC for all these years?

Status two Academy versus status one

 

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View TrickyboyVn's Profile TrickyboyVn Flag Ho Chi Minh City 16 Nov 19 8.28am Send a Private Message to TrickyboyVn Add TrickyboyVn as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

A stodgier, more predictable Palace I don't think I've seen in a good while. No pace, no invention, negative, no goals...
Extended contracts for a sicknote and a bloke who's score 4 in two seasons.
Our talisman Wilf doesn't seem up for it and the opposition have sussed him out anyway.
Hope that the youth would come through and challenge for the first team seems misplaced, the departure of Shaw asks more questions as to what is going on?
Not looking good.

Tend to agree totally sadly

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 16 Nov 19 5.25pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Abraham and Foden were on the club's books at 8 whilst Mount was 6. Unfortunately Palace was probably skirting administration around then. Citeh and Chelski were fighting at the top of the PL. Think we might need a fair few years before we see a steady stream from the academy.

Edited by Booted Eagle (15 Nov 2019 5.18pm)

If ever

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag Chelsea 16 Nov 19 11.00pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Wishful thinking

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 22 Nov 19 7.07am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

We are unquestionably in a better league position than when Roy took over. That is a statement of the obvious.

However, from a squad strength/squad age perspective, I would say we've gone a long way backwards.

Who knows who's at fault for that. But if Roy hasn't been screaming about the need for rejuvenation, then he's not been pushing the club's best long-term interests hard enough.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 22 Nov 19 10.23am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by TrickyboyVn

Tend to agree totally sadly

I agree and would go further to say that we may go on a very long run of poor results (it has started) due to the lack of invention, ambition and goalscoring.
We are not in a good place me thinks - although weirdly I think we may do rather well against the Scousers tomorrow!

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 22 Nov 19 1.39pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Results have far exceeded my expectations this year. We've been a bit better than I'd expected, especially Ward, and had some fortune.

I actually think we will improve our form soon, although the luck probably won't last.

But results don't alter realities that we have -- for reasons unclear -- gone backwards on many levels since Roy came. The causes could be many...excessive conservatism by Roy and/or Steve P, or the yanks losing interest and blocking decision making. Hard to know who's at fault.

 

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View rollercoaster's Profile rollercoaster Flag Cornwall 22 Nov 19 2.22pm Send a Private Message to rollercoaster Add rollercoaster as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Results have far exceeded my expectations this year. We've been a bit better than I'd expected, especially Ward, and had some fortune.

I actually think we will improve our form soon, although the luck probably won't last.

But results don't alter realities that we have -- for reasons unclear -- gone backwards on many levels since Roy came. The causes could be many...excessive conservatism by Roy and/or Steve P, or the yanks losing interest and blocking decision making. Hard to know who's at fault.

Agree 100% with all this. Our form will improve I'm sure but results may not match it unless our good luck continues. I just want to see more legacy from our longest spell in the top division before the inevitable. Just how long can the Main Stand stay upright in it's current form!!

 

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 23 Nov 19 11.14am Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

70 pages of thread here, all undercut by a polite cursory summation of our season in a couple of sentences from Jurgen Klopp (see his pre-match comments). Roy's got more out of the team by getting a better understanding between the players, he's had to because we did not manage to make necessary changes during the last window - hopefully we hire and fire better in Jan.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 23 Nov 19 6.05pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

70 pages of thread here, all undercut by a polite cursory summation of our season in a couple of sentences from Jurgen Klopp (see his pre-match comments). Roy's got more out of the team by getting a better understanding between the players, he's had to because we did not manage to make necessary changes during the last window - hopefully we hire and fire better in Jan.

The name of the game.

 

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