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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 13 Jan 20 7.29pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Rubbish, that is fluke

A somewhat dogmatic opinion given it is only opinion. I feel it is progress too. Slow organic growth within the rules and relatively manageable although the budget hole and wage bill are concerning.

Given the latter the management are well within their rights to carry on and ignore the demands of fans to spend profligately and become the next pompey.

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 13 Jan 20 8.19pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Don't we have a £35m operating loss?

yes, because of fat sams janaury spending

read this, you may understand more

[Link]

also look at the figures in the attached screenshot

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 13 Jan 20 10.01pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

yes, because of fat sams janaury spending

read this, you may understand more

[Link]

also look at the figures in the attached screenshot

Thanks for this braunstoneagle - it explains a lot. We'll just have to carry on much as we are doing for a few more years until the finances improve.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag Chelsea 14 Jan 20 12.17am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Thanks for this braunstoneagle - it explains a lot. We'll just have to carry on much as we are doing for a few more years until the finances improve.

Or sell

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 14 Jan 20 7.19pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Thanks for this braunstoneagle - it explains a lot. We'll just have to carry on much as we are doing for a few more years until the finances improve.

so i have been looking on [Link] website about our transfer spending since promotion and it turns out weve spent £130m net since promotion averaging approx £20m a season given weve already had one window this season.

it breaks down to approx...

13-14 -£30m
14-15 -£25m
15-16 -£21m (yannick sale)
15-17 -£46m (fat sam january)
17-18 -£41m (sakho signing)
18-19 -£10m
19-20 +£43m (awb to manure)

so looking at the facts, the club has spent £130m net on transfers and still made a small profit over a 7 season period

for me during that time we have turned from almost certainty for a relegation dogfight to not being involved in the bottom 3 for 18 months.

to put it into perspective, fulham last season & villa this have pretty much spend what we have spent in 7 seasons in 1 season, 1 went down and the other looking likely to do so.

compare our accounts to a lot of teams and parish deserves nowt but praise for the job done over 10 years.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag Kent 14 Jan 20 7.27pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

so i have been looking on [Link] website about our transfer spending since promotion and it turns out weve spent £130m net since promotion averaging approx £20m a season given weve already had one window this season.

it breaks down to approx...

13-14 -£30m
14-15 -£25m
15-16 -£21m (yannick sale)
15-17 -£46m (fat sam january)
17-18 -£41m (sakho signing)
18-19 -£10m
19-20 +£43m (awb to manure)

so looking at the facts, the club has spent £130m net on transfers and still made a small profit over a 7 season period

for me during that time we have turned from almost certainty for a relegation dogfight to not being involved in the bottom 3 for 18 months.

to put it into perspective, fulham last season & villa this have pretty much spend what we have spent in 7 seasons in 1 season, 1 went down and the other looking likely to do so.

compare our accounts to a lot of teams and parish deserves nowt but praise for the job done over 10 years.

I’d still be happier if we bought a striker winger full backs and a couple more though

All jokes aside thank you, that’s one of the most informative posts I’ve read recently and feel better educated for it!

 


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View CharlesPaterson's Profile CharlesPaterson Flag 14 Jan 20 7.41pm Send a Private Message to CharlesPaterson Add CharlesPaterson as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

so i have been looking on [Link] website about our transfer spending since promotion and it turns out weve spent £130m net since promotion averaging approx £20m a season given weve already had one window this season.

it breaks down to approx...

13-14 -£30m
14-15 -£25m
15-16 -£21m (yannick sale)
15-17 -£46m (fat sam january)
17-18 -£41m (sakho signing)
18-19 -£10m
19-20 +£43m (awb to manure)

so looking at the facts, the club has spent £130m net on transfers and still made a small profit over a 7 season period

for me during that time we have turned from almost certainty for a relegation dogfight to not being involved in the bottom 3 for 18 months.

to put it into perspective, fulham last season & villa this have pretty much spend what we have spent in 7 seasons in 1 season, 1 went down and the other looking likely to do so.

compare our accounts to a lot of teams and parish deserves nowt but praise for the job done over 10 years.

A very interesting post, Thanks for that.

Just goes to show, a club our size could easily go the way of a Sunderland or a Bolton with just a couple of bad signings.

We got lucky with AWB, otherwise them stats would look a lot worse..

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 14 Jan 20 10.01pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Good read.

A complete oversimplification would say we've got the 9th highest wage bill and we are 9th in the league.

This looks like our situation point for the time being unless we can find a comparative advange elsewhere.

To progress, we will need, a larger matchday income. Which can only really be achieved through stadium improvements

We also need a way of lowering the wage bill, bring through more young players, better training facilities/coaches to get more out of what we have. Better scouting network to find better deals.

Otherwise we are pretty much stuck, being stuck at your optimum level with the resources you have is a massive achievement. Especially when you look at all the massive clubs below us, not just those above us.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 15 Jan 20 9.06pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Good read.

A complete oversimplification would say we've got the 9th highest wage bill and we are 9th in the league.

This looks like our situation point for the time being unless we can find a comparative advange elsewhere.

To progress, we will need, a larger matchday income. Which can only really be achieved through stadium improvements

We also need a way of lowering the wage bill, bring through more young players, better training facilities/coaches to get more out of what we have. Better scouting network to find better deals.

Otherwise we are pretty much stuck, being stuck at your optimum level with the resources you have is a massive achievement. Especially when you look at all the massive clubs below us, not just those above us.

There's too much sense being spoken.

 

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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 15 Jan 20 9.38pm Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

I think you are entirely correct which is why the investment in Selhurst and the Academy is so critical. Equally, it is is entirely understandable that any spending will be minimal and very prudent.
There was an interesting piece in the FT last weekend on the model adopted by Lille. They only have revs of Euros 53.9 vis a vis CPFC at £150m but basically follow exactly the same model - invest heavily in the academy, sell on players like Pepe for E80m and attract significant private equity investment. Lille reckon they have made a net transfer profit of almost E200m these past 2 years - certainly food for thought.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag Kent 15 Jan 20 9.53pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

There's too much sense being spoken.

It’s funny because it’s true!

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 15 Jan 20 10.24pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by nead1

I think you are entirely correct which is why the investment in Selhurst and the Academy is so critical. Equally, it is is entirely understandable that any spending will be minimal and very prudent.
There was an interesting piece in the FT last weekend on the model adopted by Lille. They only have revs of Euros 53.9 vis a vis CPFC at £150m but basically follow exactly the same model - invest heavily in the academy, sell on players like Pepe for E80m and attract significant private equity investment. Lille reckon they have made a net transfer profit of almost E200m these past 2 years - certainly food for thought.

Absolutely, in these days of crazy transfer prices and player wages, clubs like ours need to invest in our academy and attract better younger players for development through to our own first team. it is inevitable that some of such academy players will end up at one of the bigger clubs in the EPL.

 

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