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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 31 Jul 19 8.47am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Petereagle

Useful feature on his playing style. Could be the biz?

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Thanks Peter that is very encouraging. This is someone who could be a damn good signing and could make us a bundle of money in the future too if he can transfer his talents to the pace of the EPL.

 

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View DeanMiles's Profile DeanMiles Flag Telford 31 Jul 19 9.25am Send a Private Message to DeanMiles Add DeanMiles as a friend

Comes from a crap league but he looks better than Sorloth.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 31 Jul 19 9.34am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Purely based on YouTube he does appear to have a certain calmness in front of goal and tries to place rather than blast the ball. He also seems able to find space although that may be due to poor defending of course.

 

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View Loz83's Profile Loz83 Flag Crawley 31 Jul 19 9.47am Send a Private Message to Loz83 Add Loz83 as a friend

Originally posted by AERO

Sorloth didnít look good on you tube by the way . Remember commenting at time if they were his best bits then we were in trouble !!

correct he looked woeful in the clips , and all the clips were in a shocking league. this lad looks good the russian league is alot stronger than the swedish league or whatever sorloth was playing in.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 31 Jul 19 11.04am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

15 million is a decent price (not too big) for a striker of Chalov's value and age.

Work permit should not be a problem, he plays in the U21 national team and should be main forward for Russia in the next years.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 31 Jul 19 12.05pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

15 million is a decent price (not too big) for a striker of Chalov's value and age.

Work permit should not be a problem, he plays in the U21 national team and should be main forward for Russia in the next years.

All the more reason to try and get him. Could possibly treble our money if he shines in the prem over a couple of seasons.

 

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View samprior's Profile samprior Flag Hackney 31 Jul 19 12.21pm Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

Seems like he could be a good addition with potential and knows how to finish.

With all the ridiculous rumours these days though and inflated prices I can't quite believe that one of Russia's top talents would be available for 15m. Seems these days 20m is the lowest pricetag foreign clubs slap on any potential move to the prem regardless of ability or experience.

Again we'll just have to wait and see if it's BS. I guess with each day that goes by the wait is getting shorter and shorter.

Edited by samprior (31 Jul 2019 12.21pm)

 

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View steven_t92's Profile steven_t92 Flag Orpington 31 Jul 19 1.12pm Send a Private Message to steven_t92 Add steven_t92 as a friend

Originally posted by Loz83

correct he looked woeful in the clips , and all the clips were in a shocking league. this lad looks good the russian league is alot stronger than the swedish league or whatever sorloth was playing in.

People always say don't sign a player just based on their youtube highlights, but definatly don't sign someone who looks terrible on youtube...did no one tell Dougie this when he signed Sorloth?

Looking forward to seeing the Russian guy if we get him in before the deadline shuts.

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Choctaw Ridge 31 Jul 19 1.18pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Has he signed yet?

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 31 Jul 19 1.33pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Has he signed yet?

Get 'Chavlov' as the lettering on your new shirt.

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 31 Jul 19 2.55pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

I put this lads name into YouTube earlier and it started showing me some nice enough finishes, though some of the games seemed to be down the park from what I could tell.

By definition a signing like this is a gamble. Sorloth and Jach didn't pay off, and so we are already chasing losses on this particular market (by which I mean the young, foreign, never heard of him market).

Was having a discussion on another thread this week about how the 'hope value' of any young player is such a distorting influence on price. Does this kid cost £15m because he's actually worth £15m as a player right now, or because his value may, one day, end up anywhere between £0m and £40m, and so somehow that equates to £15m today?

If he stayed in Russia and got no better or worse for the next three years would he be worth more, or less than £15m? Probably less, as the hope value would have reduced? If he came to England and did OK (9 or 10 league goals a year for two or three years) would he be worth more or less than £15m? Probably about the same? How well would he have to do to be worth significantly more than the purchase cost? Dunno. It's an imperfect science and no mistake.

We do of course need a forward to chip in, even if he's not 1st choice every week. If it was as simple as that then note Burnley picked up Jay Rodriguez, who has a proven 1 goal every 3 games record in the top two divisions, for £5m now and £5m next year, which sort of puts the whole 'hope value / potential sell on incentive' of this Russian kid into some sort of perspective. Perhaps?

Needless to say, if we get him then I'll spend the next 10 days believing him to be the new Shevchenko until proved otherwise!

Edited by TheBigToePunt (31 Jul 2019 3.04pm)

 

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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 31 Jul 19 3.44pm Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

Agree with most of the above posts, think it is very hard for players to be judged on youtube videos alone, and thats where people in the buisness do have an advantage as knowing people who know the players, their personalities etc counts for a lot. It's that judgement on `how much will this player improve?`. Will he wilt or flourish in a tougher league, in a new country, away from home etc.

Chalov has been at his current club since he was 8 years old. There are pros and cons to that.

The reality is any signing is a risk and whoever pays the bills (also where its easy as fans to say buy x, y and z....it's easier spending other people money than your own) is the one who has to make the call as to if the risk is worth the reward but have to consider it might not be. Yes some deals work out really well. Say Deli Ali to Spurs for just 4 million. He was in plain sight of everyone in English football and he flourished. And flip side remember Fernando Torres. Banged them in for Liverpool big money move to Chelsea, same country, same league...couldn't hit a barn door.

So Chalov could be a diamond ready to step up anf flourish or could flop. Question is, could we stomach him being a 14 mill Sorloth?

Edited by Mwncisee (31 Jul 2019 3.46pm)

 

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