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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Aug 19 2.08pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Donít rely on cold drinks at HT vs Everton. Or anything other than sausage rolls.

 


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View wainesworld's Profile wainesworld Flag west wickham 05 Aug 19 2.54pm Send a Private Message to wainesworld Add wainesworld as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

But if the club was better organised then they would make more money. I bet we rank really low on match day income. Obviously Burnley and Bournemouth will be lower. No one else would be. Sheffield United perhaps but they will up their game to Premier League standard whilst we are probably a below average championship set up in so many ways. We simply have not grown much in many areas - the other is merchandise. We need a high street store to stock our stuff. You can buy Everton and Watford, why not Palace? At least I haven't seen Brighton tops in stores.

There average gate is higher than ours so expect they will have a better income.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Aug 19 3.35pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Percy

Perhaps we should ask Parish to up the cost of the season tickets to £1000 which is what my Arsenal friends have to pay. Whilst I'm anxious about the lack of signings, the ground conditions aren't something that I can get hot under the collar about. I'd rather we spend some money on the playing side at the cost of having a poor burger experience

I am not disputing that but surely we should be encouraging the next generation of fans. I am sure all the corporate were well looked after as SP says this is where the main income comes from. Maybe but at the expense of us lowlife fans who only pay £500 for our season ticket and £20 for pre-season friendlies? Not sure I like the direction the club is going, where will all the corporate be when we are in the Championship? I know I will still be in the LH.

 

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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Thorney, Cambs 05 Aug 19 9.21pm Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

There is one reason for this. The club is running out of cash.

The ownership structure which is now in place where a series of service companies including lots owned by Parish and the Yanks needs feeding and with no money coming in over the summer the cash to fund basic maintenance etc, simply was not there.

From what I gather the huge sums we get in are needed simply now to tread water which is why we are not signing anyone and our usually vocal chairman is somewhat quiet.

We will aa ever aim for survival as if we fail in that endeavour I suspect we will have severe cashflow problems.

Itís life in the PL for the bottom 10 clubs, 150m income and 120m wage bill plus running costs. You buy one player for over 20m as season you loose money.

We were what? 35m in debt hence AWB clearing the bill. Weíre offloading dead wood to reduce the wage bill, but unfortunately Tekkers wouldnít leave for China which is costing us dear.

Selling AWB means luckily we can keep wilf until hopefully one more season, without that sale he would of gone to either AFC or EFC for 40/50m.

Bottom line is we have no £ and the owners are not stumping up for transfers. SP et al need to run the club within its means and stop throwing away £ on garbage players , the scouting team and DF need to go. Ffs Brentford have found players for a couple of mill amc sell on for huge profits and we buy Sorloth and Jach.

Wilf will go to balance the books at the end of this season if not before, we go down we go the way of Sunderland if we carry on pissing the cash away as we are.

 

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View mileend's Profile mileend Flag East London 07 Aug 19 1.17am Send a Private Message to mileend Add mileend as a friend

Originally posted by kev64

Itís life in the PL for the bottom 10 clubs, 150m income and 120m wage bill plus running costs. You buy one player for over 20m as season you loose money.

We were what? 35m in debt hence AWB clearing the bill. Weíre offloading dead wood to reduce the wage bill, but unfortunately Tekkers wouldnít leave for China which is costing us dear.

Selling AWB means luckily we can keep wilf until hopefully one more season, without that sale he would of gone to either AFC or EFC for 40/50m.

Bottom line is we have no £ and the owners are not stumping up for transfers. SP et al need to run the club within its means and stop throwing away £ on garbage players , the scouting team and DF need to go. Ffs Brentford have found players for a couple of mill amc sell on for huge profits and we buy Sorloth and Jach.

Wilf will go to balance the books at the end of this season if not before, we go down we go the way of Sunderland if we carry on pissing the cash away as we are.

it's a good summary kev64 - don't forget to put the USA shareholders wanting out asap into the heady mix of the behind the scenes turmoil

I think with Wilf for sale next summer we will avoid any risk of immediate liquidation (given the wholesale reduction in playing staff and so lower wage risks) should we go down - but there is always a chance we'll stay up and that would give the opportunity to rebuild

but it will need some precision scouting, negotiation and purchasing - and that is exactly what has been missing the last few years

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag Chelsea 07 Aug 19 2.50am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by mileend

it's a good summary kev64 - don't forget to put the USA shareholders wanting out asap into the heady mix of the behind the scenes turmoil

I think with Wilf for sale next summer we will avoid any risk of immediate liquidation (given the wholesale reduction in playing staff and so lower wage risks) should we go down - but there is always a chance we'll stay up and that would give the opportunity to rebuild

but it will need some precision scouting, negotiation and purchasing - and that is exactly what has been missing the last few years

Well said! And if I might add, earlier in the window.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 07 Aug 19 3.02am Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

Itís so long since Iíve had a proper drink in the ground, I didnít realise you need to re-mortgage your house to get a round in. Thatís my only complaint

Fleeced left right and centre mate

 

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View kenners46's Profile kenners46 Flag sydenham village 07 Aug 19 6.46am Send a Private Message to kenners46 Add kenners46 as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

Itís so long since Iíve had a proper drink in the ground, I didnít realise you need to re-mortgage your house to get a round in. Thatís my only complaint

The last time you got a round in was when Wright and Bright were playing up front

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag 07 Aug 19 7.56am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by kenners46

The last time you got a round in was when Wright and Bright were playing up front

Actually it was Swindlehurst and Walsh

 

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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Thorney, Cambs 07 Aug 19 7.59am Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Originally posted by mileend

it's a good summary kev64 - don't forget to put the USA shareholders wanting out asap into the heady mix of the behind the scenes turmoil

I think with Wilf for sale next summer we will avoid any risk of immediate liquidation (given the wholesale reduction in playing staff and so lower wage risks) should we go down - but there is always a chance we'll stay up and that would give the opportunity to rebuild

but it will need some precision scouting, negotiation and purchasing - and that is exactly what has been missing the last few years

Unfortunately due to the poor transfer record the opportunity to rebuild has gone . We have no replacements for Tekkers, Wilf, Townsend, Ward, McArthur etc.

I canít lay the blame fully on SP weíve spent millions on players who have failed to perform at any level. We seem to miss out on young quality players from the championship and the top six and go for 26/27 yr olds with no ongoing development or value. Our under 21 team is borderline pointless, with only AWB being given a fluke chance, so even if we have talent we canít see it.

Apart from Max Meyer who given the correct role will shine, the future shape of our team is dire. Unfortunately in Dougie I donít trust and I know Roy will keep us up but again where is the forward plan ?.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 07 Aug 19 10.37am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

But if the club was better organised then they would make more money. I bet we rank really low on match day income. Obviously Burnley and Bournemouth will be lower. No one else would be. Sheffield United perhaps but they will up their game to Premier League standard whilst we are probably a below average championship set up in so many ways. We simply have not grown much in many areas - the other is merchandise. We need a high street store to stock our stuff. You can buy Everton and Watford, why not Palace? At least I haven't seen Brighton tops in stores.

What really grinds with me are the sports shops in Gatwick airport. Palace are the closest PL side to the airport (just about I reckon), but regardless of that you cannot buy a Palace shirt at any of the stores. Celtic, Rangers, most PL teams, Barcelona, Real Madrid, tick,tick,tick,tick bloody tick, but no Palace shirt. Whoever runs our merchandising has not got a clue.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 07 Aug 19 10.58am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

What really grinds with me are the sports shops in Gatwick airport. Palace are the closest PL side to the airport (just about I reckon), but regardless of that you cannot buy a Palace shirt at any of the stores. Celtic, Rangers, most PL teams, Barcelona, Real Madrid, tick,tick,tick,tick bloody tick, but no Palace shirt. Whoever runs our merchandising has not got a clue.

I have always thought this but could it be to do with who your shirt sponsors are ? I don't know perhaps certain retailers only stock certain sponsored shirts. Now we have Puma maybe it will evolve. If not, you are right about the merchandising dept

 

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