You are here: Home > Message Board > Palace Talk > How Amateur is our Club
December 10 2019 11.40am

How Amateur is our Club

Previous Topic | Next Topic


Page 4 of 5 < 1 2 3 4 5 >

This forum is sponsored by

Football Index

Sponsor a forum or Advertise on the HOL!

 

View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag 07 Aug 19 11.15am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by kev64

Unfortunately due to the poor transfer record the opportunity to rebuild has gone . We have no replacements for Tekkers, Wilf, Townsend, Ward, McArthur etc.

I canít lay the blame fully on SP weíve spent millions on players who have failed to perform at any level. We seem to miss out on young quality players from the championship and the top six and go for 26/27 yr olds with no ongoing development or value. Our under 21 team is borderline pointless, with only AWB being given a fluke chance, so even if we have talent we canít see it.

Apart from Max Meyer who given the correct role will shine, the future shape of our team is dire. Unfortunately in Dougie I donít trust and I know Roy will keep us up but again where is the forward plan ?.

agree, where are the 2 or 3 lower league players who are coming through to warm the bench for a while, learn their trade and come in as and when required? That's what Palace have always been good at yet I'm struggling to think of the last div1 or div 2 player we bought (or were even linked with).
If we buy McCarthy it just shows the club has no structure, vision or common sense!!

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Aug 19 11.32am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I have always thought this but could it be to do with who your shirt sponsors are ? I don't know perhaps certain retailers only stock certain sponsored shirts. Now we have Puma maybe it will evolve. If not, you are right about the merchandising dept

I canít remember but the profit margins become a factor somehow. I remember the club shop in Allders in Croydon was closed by Jordan because it made a loss. Thing is, I feel having shirts available and sold in a wider area is a worthwhile loss leader when youíre in the Prem.

(But unfortunately weíre now losing money and have lost £45 mil plus what we donít know about yet and the Americans want it paid back. Hopefully they donít want to damage our survival chances with that until they sell their shares because their shares will become worth n@ff all, unless they calculate that loss might be smaller than the current annual losses mounted up if they use too much of the eventual Zaha cash to evolve the team)

 


COYP

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag 08 Aug 19 12.17pm Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I canít remember but the profit margins become a factor somehow. I remember the club shop in Allders in Croydon was closed by Jordan because it made a loss. Thing is, I feel having shirts available and sold in a wider area is a worthwhile loss leader when youíre in the Prem.

(But unfortunately weíre now losing money and have lost £45 mil plus what we donít know about yet and the Americans want it paid back. Hopefully they donít want to damage our survival chances with that until they sell their shares because their shares will become worth n@ff all, unless they calculate that loss might be smaller than the current annual losses mounted up if they use too much of the eventual Zaha cash to evolve the team)

Just to clarify we didn't lose £45 m last year - it was £35m (£10m operating profit and £45m transfer loss). The year before we reported a profit (partly due to Bolaise sell). Wages are high but we can cover them and make money in the Premier league (£150m income v £120m wages). Clearly such high wages leaves transfer funds limited.

Allders was shut because we had to pay them rental for the shop space and clearly the cost of this, plus staff wages etc, wasn't covered by revenues generated.

We don't have to have a shop (other than club shop) to sell shirts. Sports Direct etc will buy shirts for say £25 and sell for £50. There is no risk to Palace at all. Clearly Palace and Puma will get less money but the shirts will be available to a wider audience.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 Aug 19 1.21pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

Just to clarify we didn't lose £45 m last year - it was £35m (£10m operating profit and £45m transfer loss). The year before we reported a profit (partly due to Bolaise sell). Wages are high but we can cover them and make money in the Premier league (£150m income v £120m wages). Clearly such high wages leaves transfer funds limited.

Allders was shut because we had to pay them rental for the shop space and clearly the cost of this, plus staff wages etc, wasn't covered by revenues generated.

We don't have to have a shop (other than club shop) to sell shirts. Sports Direct etc will buy shirts for say £25 and sell for £50. There is no risk to Palace at all. Clearly Palace and Puma will get less money but the shirts will be available to a wider audience.

Ok but I donít go in for this disassociation of operations and transfer fees in a business that survives with transfer fees and transfer business, payments and instalments high on its agenda.

Sure weíll be seeing an end to paying Liverpool millions at some point, but in the meantime weíre still needing to buy players, juggle wages around weíre struggling with and thatís with the US shareholders being owed the full total of the AWB cash sale.

The model is really at full capacity and they either have to sell Wilf or invest a little until then. As their asset will be worth so little and the loss so big after relegation it seems theyíre prepared to do the sensible thing and give us all a chance of saving our sorry &rses.

I agree we should be makin a Palace shirt an impulse purchase in the south east rather than a trip to Selhurst or buying online from cpfc.

 


COYP

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View robdave2k's Profile robdave2k Flag Corby 08 Aug 19 2.26pm Send a Private Message to robdave2k Add robdave2k as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

Just to clarify we didn't lose £45 m last year - it was £35m (£10m operating profit and £45m transfer loss). The year before we reported a profit (partly due to Bolaise sell). Wages are high but we can cover them and make money in the Premier league (£150m income v £120m wages). Clearly such high wages leaves transfer funds limited.

Allders was shut because we had to pay them rental for the shop space and clearly the cost of this, plus staff wages etc, wasn't covered by revenues generated.

We don't have to have a shop (other than club shop) to sell shirts. Sports Direct etc will buy shirts for say £25 and sell for £50. There is no risk to Palace at all. Clearly Palace and Puma will get less money but the shirts will be available to a wider audience.

To be fair Allders weren't exactly a beacon of how to survive tough trading times.

Between them and Jordan advising me on finances, that's a bit like asking would you like your left or right bollock amputated.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 08 Aug 19 6.16pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

not getting a half way decent right back in before the deadline is not only amateurish, it's unforgivable, the Zaha saga I don't blame SP for - we never received an appropriate bid - we could have taken a hit and sold at 70mil but 80 was rightly the minimum and a lot of business hinged on Zaha's sale - but they had plenty of time for a right back, and a striker. I don't go with all those who are already writing off Cahill and McCarthy, too early, and we could do with developing players rather than getting the finished article all the time (apart from Sorloth) but they are competent experienced players of proven quality - I don't think McC is a sick note either, the injuries have come from challenges rather than his breaking down, and he's been fit since October. Ayew gives us back up, he's flaky but he does have genuine technical ability and apart from Wilf and Andros we have no wingers, but we needed better, Sarr who went to Watford we could have got as he can play anywhere across the front three and would partly fill the gap left when Wilf goes. So yes, on a scale of 1 -10 where 1 is prostitution and 10 is voluntary work I'd put us at 7.5 - we really are rather amateur.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View You What's Profile You What Flag se25 08 Aug 19 10.54pm Send a Private Message to You What Add You What as a friend

The thing is they didnít even bother getting any cheap right and left backs in as cover just to show that they are trying. Our strikers have been poor for three years!!! And still no effort!!! Itís beyond amateur! How many times can we start the season short of positions. Think this is the year it comes undone. Did the pre season games not give them an idea???

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 11 Aug 19 9.04am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Myself and my son are season ticket holders, today he wanted to take his girlfriend to her first ever football game. I bought tickets in main stand as on-line I couldn't buy for Holmesdale. I won't comment on the s**t served up on the pitch but feel the need to highlight the following:
Went into the ground early to get the "match experience". It was always our intention to buy food in the ground and soak up the atmosphere;
1) Went into Stephenson lounge no chips were available. Now bear in mind their were many young kids at the game>
2) Could not accrue Parish points as there was an IT issue.
3) The pre-match music had to be curtailed due to ridiculous feed back:
4) Loud drilling from the upper Holmesdale (have they not had since early May to work on the ground?)
5) Up to an hour before KO workman painting the steps in the Upper Holmesdale.
People may find these points trivial but I feel it makes the club look pathetic

Happened agin in the LH today. Spent £30 odd on food/drinks but was told cannot give loyalty points due to an issue but....we will give double points next game!! WTF so basically any money spent yesterday (and last week) the points are lost. Anyone know who I can contact at the club about this? Although I suspect it will be pointless excercise

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 11 Aug 19 9.13am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Happened agin in the LH today. Spent £30 odd on food/drinks but was told cannot give loyalty points due to an issue but....we will give double points next game!! WTF so basically any money spent yesterday (and last week) the points are lost. Anyone know who I can contact at the club about this? Although I suspect it will be pointless excercise

You can give Alexander Sorloth a shout on asorloth@bebo.com. I believe this is his department.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Aug 19 9.48am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Warm soft drinks again for first game of the season as predicted again. £2 for a warm 500ml bottle of coke.

When do they first turn the fridges on? 3.30?

 


COYP

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View johnmcormick8's Profile johnmcormick8 Flag Brundish 11 Aug 19 9.57am Send a Private Message to johnmcormick8 Add johnmcormick8 as a friend

its not great is it. which kinda back up my point that as a club we're still a bit of ragamuffin outfit

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 11 Aug 19 10.14am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Happened agin in the LH today. Spent £30 odd on food/drinks but was told cannot give loyalty points due to an issue but....we will give double points next game!! WTF so basically any money spent yesterday (and last week) the points are lost. Anyone know who I can contact at the club about this? Although I suspect it will be pointless excercise

Good one!

 


Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply

 

Page 4 of 5 < 1 2 3 4 5 >

Previous Topic | Next Topic

You are here: Home > Message Board > Palace Talk > How Amateur is our Club