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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 04 Aug 19 6.50pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I find it pretty funny that we don't use our flooding/ fast flowing rivers to create energy.
One would think a few modern turbines would create a hell of a lot of free/ cheap electricity.
Ancient civilisations used water wheels, the factories/ mills of the industrial revolution used them but we seem to prefer expensive massive wind farms that are costly to maintain, an eyesore and a nuisance and incredibly inefficient. The French model of nuclear power seems to have far less problems than everyone else's.

Good call. There are numerous solutions.

Also efficient energy storage has long been a head scratcher but rail systems and the like offer surprisingly effective and innovative solutions.

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 05 Aug 19 6.45am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

As I understand it, there is no way that the current options of non fossil, non nuclear energy sources can get anywhere meeting increasing energy demands. Therefore their proliferation will do little to reduce the problems associated with traditional energy production while creating new environmental problems.

I expect that he government will do an about turn shortly and announce that previous findings were wrong and diesel engines are the way forward

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Aug 19 11.31am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

An interesting element comrade.

Element 115.

As I'm sure you are aware. Bob Lazar talked about it years before it was synthesised.

Funny how the Americans and Russians went to all that trouble.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 05 Aug 19 11.58am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Element 115.

As I'm sure you are aware. Bob Lazar talked about it years before it was synthesised.

Funny how the Americans and Russians went to all that trouble.

Call me a sheep Hrolf but I can't help but be highly skeptical of Lazar.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Aug 19 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Call me a sheep Hrolf but I can't help but be highly skeptical of Lazar.

It's wise to question the credibility but he knew about that and night tests of weird and wonderful aircraft and where they happened before anyone had heard of this stuff.

Keep an open mind.

 

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View .TUX.'s Profile .TUX. Flag 05 Aug 19 8.11pm Send a Private Message to .TUX. Add .TUX. as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's wise to question the credibility but he knew about that and night tests of weird and wonderful aircraft and where they happened before anyone had heard of this stuff.

Keep an open mind.

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 06 Aug 19 7.00am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Thorium.

Thank you.

On another thread I posted about an alternate nuclear energy but couldn't remember it's name.

The Americans had a design back in the 1950's but didn't go ahead because it didn't create plutonium. Apparently the Chinese are working on it now and expect to build one in the next 10 years. In theory it's far safer than the current ones and would mean that countries like North Korea and Iran could build them as they are only for energy creation.

As for green energy it all depends on storage if the battery technology improves then it becomes sustainable.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 06 Aug 19 7.36am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Thank you.

On another thread I posted about an alternate nuclear energy but couldn't remember it's name.

The Americans had a design back in the 1950's but didn't go ahead because it didn't create plutonium. Apparently the Chinese are working on it now and expect to build one in the next 10 years. In theory it's far safer than the current ones and would mean that countries like North Korea and Iran could build them as they are only for energy creation.

As for green energy it all depends on storage if the battery technology improves then it becomes sustainable.

I agree with everything you've said......our inability to make substantial progress on effective battery technologies means that green is just a very expensive tease.

Nuclear via far safer elements like Thorium seems to be the way the wisest heads are moving.....if we compare the energy costs for consumers between France and Germany we see that writ large.....Nuclear is far cheaper and like green has zero climate emissions.

That said, I have serious concerns with the competence of how our energy policy has been handled in this country.....delay, delay, delay and the placing of responsibilities into foreign hands.

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Aug 19 1.43pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Thank you.

On another thread I posted about an alternate nuclear energy but couldn't remember it's name.

The Americans had a design back in the 1950's but didn't go ahead because it didn't create plutonium. Apparently the Chinese are working on it now and expect to build one in the next 10 years. In theory it's far safer than the current ones and would mean that countries like North Korea and Iran could build them as they are only for energy creation.

As for green energy it all depends on storage if the battery technology improves then it becomes sustainable.

The current energy is no different storage wise. It is all electricity that is produced and then needs to be stored and directed to where it is needed. There is no difference between the storage of electricity generated from a coal-fired power station than there is from electricity produced by wind farms. Both are just electricity.
Where I live we have regular flooding and a really deep fast flowing river that is not navigable. Therefore if we used water wheels/ turbines to generate electricity we could have loads for free. Would easily power our small town and wouldn't even cost much to do.
Whenever I bring it up though, I hear about the energy storage. If you think about it, that is obviously a red herring. My understanding is that it is little to do with batteries and more to do with capacitors that we currently use. We lose quite a bit of electricity already due to poor infrastructure - there is literally no difference if we generated the electricity differently originally.
Sooner or later we will have to have major upgrades. I'm happy enough with safe nuclear power but I don't think that extends to a lot of people in Britain and Ireland. Our countries are islands surrounded by rough seas that constantly move. Not much of a stretch to think that we already have the technology to harness this. There are clearly vested interests.

 


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Originally posted by ASCPFC

Where I live we have regular flooding and a really deep fast flowing river that is not navigable. Therefore if we used water wheels/ turbines to generate electricity we could have loads for free. Would easily power our small town and wouldn't even cost much to do.

I'm pretty sure if this was so that it would have happened a long time ago.

To produce significant levels of power you need large bodies of water.....Look at the size and scope of the Hoover Dam which took five years to build.....it can only provide power for 1.5 million people, which amounts to the metropolitan population of Sheffield.

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 07 Aug 19 11.04am Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

The continued ignoring of relatively safe and clean nuclear power is a scandal. What that's left us is western powers pandering to authoritarian Islamism regimes including providing them arms to suppress their own people and others.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 07 Aug 19 11.36am Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by W12

The continued ignoring of relatively safe and clean nuclear power is a scandal.

I do think it's kind of pitiful that our only nuclear plans nowadays tend to be bankrolled by foreign nations. Our priorities are indeed all wrong.

 

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