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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 19 Jan 20 4.04pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

Not fancied by Potch or Jose. Looks like Zeki Fryers all over again. Can’t Dougie find a good young’un knocking about in Scotland?

Exactly. Fourth choice for his position at a team one place above us in the table and that has conceded five more goals. We should charge Spurs for giving him playing time especially as Ward - who tbh has had a better season than I expected - is back now

 

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 20 Jan 20 9.33am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

Exactly. Fourth choice for his position at a team one place above us in the table and that has conceded five more goals. We should charge Spurs for giving him playing time especially as Ward - who tbh has had a better season than I expected - is back now

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KWP to decide by Friday? He certainly is of interest to several clubs so may now bein a position to reach a decision?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jan 20 10.15am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

Exactly. Fourth choice for his position at a team one place above us in the table and that has conceded five more goals. We should charge Spurs for giving him playing time especially as Ward - who tbh has had a better season than I expected - is back now

It's a good point, though Spurs play a far more attacking style than us.

 

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View Palace in the Blood's Profile Palace in the Blood Flag 20 Jan 20 10.24am Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

Exactly. Fourth choice for his position at a team one place above us in the table and that has conceded five more goals. We should charge Spurs for giving him playing time especially as Ward - who tbh has had a better season than I expected - is back now

Wards return is a 2 edged sword On the positive side Spurs can not hold us to ransom asking for a high loan fee. On the negative KWP will not be a near guaranteed starter which he would have been if he had signed a week ago

 

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 20 Jan 20 10.24am Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Do we pay the 15 mil asking price?

 


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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 20 Jan 20 10.30am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Do we pay the 15 mil asking price?

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I am sure Palace would prefer a loan with option to buy, but it now looks like KWP will be sold for something between £10-15m? Maybe there are better RBs out there for £12/13m but if so we had better find one quick? Or do we stay with Ward with Kelly as back up?

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 20 Jan 20 12.53pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

£15m is too much I reckon. I would offer £10m for him and if that fails offer the same for Bogle. If it ends up being £12m or £13m then maybe ok. I understand that Ward is fit again but he isnt getting any younger and needs proper competition which Kelly isn't. If we buy someone then they have to be young enough to either be able to sell on or stay with us for 5 or 6 years.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 20 Jan 20 1.23pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

It amazes me that we are in for this kid. He's just not very good.

A couple of years ago Spurs had Rose and Davies for the left back position, Walker and Trippier for right back. Pochettino insisted on this as his full backs cover so much ground, and with European games on top of league and cup it was essential to have two first team quality full backs on both sides.

They sold Walker to Man City, but didn't buy a replacement as they thought Walker-Peters would come through and be understudy to Trippier. KWP played a couple of games and looked OK.

Then they didn't pick him again.

They see him training every day, and they never pick him. He has played 12 premier league games. Ever. Same amount in cups and Europe. He's 22 going on 23, not a kid.

This is during a period when Spurs really needed a good right back. Trippier lost form badly after the World Cup, but they didn't pick KWP.

They bought Aurier while they still had Trippier, which is not what you do if you trust KWP. Aurier has played like a total clown at times. Stil KWP can't get in.

They sold Trippier, not because KWP had developed sufficiently to take his place, but because Trippier was getting close to 30, and Levy works that way. When asked about the need to sign a replacement, Pochettino said that Juan Foyth, a centre back, could play at right back if needed. Not KWP, an actual right back. Foyth can't play right back by the way, he's awful there. Still they don't pick KWP.

Finally, KWP has now been queue-jumped by Japhet Tanganga, who is two years his junior, and actually a centre back. Spurs plainly needed a new right back, and are happy to promote a youth player if he's good enough.

KWP isn't.

 

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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

It amazes me that we are in for this kid. He's just not very good.

A couple of years ago Spurs had Rose and Davies for the left back position, Walker and Trippier for right back. Pochettino insisted on this as his full backs cover so much ground, and with European games on top of league and cup it was essential to have two first team quality full backs on both sides.

They sold Walker to Man City, but didn't buy a replacement as they thought Walker-Peters would come through and be understudy to Trippier. KWP played a couple of games and looked OK.

Then they didn't pick him again.

They see him training every day, and they never pick him. He has played 12 premier league games. Ever. Same amount in cups and Europe. He's 22 going on 23, not a kid.

This is during a period when Spurs really needed a good right back. Trippier lost form badly after the World Cup, but they didn't pick KWP.

They bought Aurier while they still had Trippier, which is not what you do if you trust KWP. Aurier has played like a total clown at times. Stil KWP can't get in.

They sold Trippier, not because KWP had developed sufficiently to take his place, but because Trippier was getting close to 30, and Levy works that way. When asked about the need to sign a replacement, Pochettino said that Juan Foyth, a centre back, could play at right back if needed. Not KWP, an actual right back. Foyth can't play right back by the way, he's awful there. Still they don't pick KWP.

Finally, KWP has now been queue-jumped by Japhet Tanganga, who is two years his junior, and actually a centre back. Spurs plainly needed a new right back, and are happy to promote a youth player if he's good enough.

KWP isn't.

And we're not Spurs. When you change the aspirations of the club then surely you're expectation levels of players change? Would Joel Ward be ahead of KWP in the pecking order if both we're at Spurs... I doubt it.

Plus with everything you've listed there - sounds more like an attitude problem than an ability problem. Everyone seems to be making a judgment on KWP based upon 12 prem games and the fact that Spurs haven't picked him much lately. Not suggesting he's the best right back in the world but I think a judgment either way, at this point in his career, is probably unfair.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 20 Jan 20 2.42pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

If he is the correct long term prospect we still need him.
Ward is in his last season of the top flight and Kelly is only a stand in so we need a young specialist right back and if this man fulfils the criteria then we should buy him.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jan 20 3.21pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

It amazes me that we are in for this kid. He's just not very good.

A couple of years ago Spurs had Rose and Davies for the left back position, Walker and Trippier for right back. Pochettino insisted on this as his full backs cover so much ground, and with European games on top of league and cup it was essential to have two first team quality full backs on both sides.

They sold Walker to Man City, but didn't buy a replacement as they thought Walker-Peters would come through and be understudy to Trippier. KWP played a couple of games and looked OK.

Then they didn't pick him again.

They see him training every day, and they never pick him. He has played 12 premier league games. Ever. Same amount in cups and Europe. He's 22 going on 23, not a kid.

This is during a period when Spurs really needed a good right back. Trippier lost form badly after the World Cup, but they didn't pick KWP.

They bought Aurier while they still had Trippier, which is not what you do if you trust KWP. Aurier has played like a total clown at times. Stil KWP can't get in.

They sold Trippier, not because KWP had developed sufficiently to take his place, but because Trippier was getting close to 30, and Levy works that way. When asked about the need to sign a replacement, Pochettino said that Juan Foyth, a centre back, could play at right back if needed. Not KWP, an actual right back. Foyth can't play right back by the way, he's awful there. Still they don't pick KWP.

Finally, KWP has now been queue-jumped by Japhet Tanganga, who is two years his junior, and actually a centre back. Spurs plainly needed a new right back, and are happy to promote a youth player if he's good enough.

KWP isn't.

Your sentiments are similar to the views of someone I was in conversation with on Saturday night.

 

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View samprior's Profile samprior Flag Hamburg 20 Jan 20 3.27pm Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

Oops

Edited by samprior (20 Jan 2020 3.28pm)

 

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