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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 13 Aug 19 7.01am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by NickinOX

Your fundamental problem is the assumption that you actually know the numbers for a fact: you don’t. As such all your claims are essentially based on a false premise. Furthermore, your assumptions about the ease of getting rid of players simply do not stand up to scrutiny. If they did I suspect a number of recent players would have been moved out of the club pretty quickly, whereas in the real world the club had to either pay them to leave or wait for their contract to run out. That is the reality.

Last, just because someone has had a good record in the past is not a guarantee of future good performance: it is merely a guide to what might be expected. You seem to ignore that fact.

And our previous experiences of signing 'big names' on the wane have not been very encouraging; Davids, Adebayor, Flamini...

 


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View NickinOX's Profile NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 13 Aug 19 11.34am Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

@NickinOX

You're right. I don't know the numbers. It was just a transfer suggestion. None of us do. It may be that the club can already afford to pay 85k a week salary after all the departures: Sako, Puncheon, Souare, Mutch, AWB etc.

But for the sake of the discussion, I signalled Riedewald and Wickham as players who are still pretty high earners and could make move for others

That is fair enough. It might, however, behoove you to make it clear that if the club can move them on, then x, y, or z might be possible. Or, you could try to be more equivocal sometimes. I think you’d get a lot less push back, unless that is what you are after?

 


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View NickinOX's Profile NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 13 Aug 19 11.34am Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

And our previous experiences of signing 'big names' on the wane have not been very encouraging; Davids, Adebayor, Flamini...

Good point.

 


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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Aug 19 2.54pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

And our previous experiences of signing 'big names' on the wane have not been very encouraging; Davids, Adebayor, Flamini...

Well, I believe it depends on the player. Adebayor is nothing like Ribery. Adebayor was lazy, while Ribery is hard working.

About Davids..I don't know, I wasn't really watching Palace when he came here (I am honest about this, others may not). It's a bit surprising as Davids was also a fighter and hard working. But I saw that he was already 37 when he joined. Maybe his organism couldn't cut it anymore.

Which is not the case for Rivery. The Frenchman can still run and press and fight like very few can.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 13 Aug 19 3.45pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Well, I believe it depends on the player. Adebayor is nothing like Ribery. Adebayor was lazy, while Ribery is hard working.

About Davids..I don't know, I wasn't really watching Palace when he came here (I am honest about this, others may not). It's a bit surprising as Davids was also a fighter and hard working. But I saw that he was already 37 when he joined. Maybe his organism couldn't cut it anymore.

Which is not the case for Rivery. The Frenchman can still run and press and fight like very few can.

We aren’t going to be signing a 36 year old on £85k a week, that has never played in the rigours of the Premier. It doesn’t matter how good he was, it just isn’t going to happen.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Aug 19 4.05pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

We aren’t going to be signing a 36 year old on £85k a week, that has never played in the rigours of the Premier. It doesn’t matter how good he was, it just isn’t going to happen.

The rigours of the Bundesliga are even more. Very serious approach there.

Guy was used to playing 50 matches or more per years and making World Cup finals.

I'm pretty sure he can handle the PL. I know that now many players can, but I'm sure about Ribery. I wouldn't have made this suggestion if I wasn't sure.

And once more, his real physical age at which he expresses himself is not 36.

Edited by mattteo (13 Aug 2019 4.15pm)

 

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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 13 Aug 19 6.03pm Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

The rigours of the Bundesliga are even more. Very serious approach there.

Guy was used to playing 50 matches or more per years and making World Cup finals.

I'm pretty sure he can handle the PL. I know that now many players can, but I'm sure about Ribery. I wouldn't have made this suggestion if I wasn't sure.

And once more, his real physical age at which he expresses himself is not 36.

Edited by mattteo (13 Aug 2019 4.15pm)

Ribery only completed 90 minutes 3 times last season averaging about 50 minutes per game. He's clearly coming to the end of his career and is not worth the money. He was a great player, but not one I'd pursue now.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Aug 19 8.25pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

Ribery only completed 90 minutes 3 times last season averaging about 50 minutes per game. He's clearly coming to the end of his career and is not worth the money. He was a great player, but not one I'd pursue now.

Palace doesn't have 8 players who averaged 50 minutes per game last year.

So doing that in Bayern Munich, one of the best clubs in the world, where competition is so tough, is a feat within itself.

That Ribery will sometimes need to be subbed off is one thing. But it's a huge difference to have him on for 70-80 minutes than not at all and play with Meyer 90 minutes.

He is also injury free now, so should be able to play more. Sometimes there are years with injuries, but Ribery had just very few days of injuriy since the torn ligament 2 years ago:

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Edited by mattteo (13 Aug 2019 8.31pm)

 

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Originally posted by mattteo

The rigours of the Bundesliga are even more. Very serious approach there.

Guy was used to playing 50 matches or more per years and making World Cup finals.

I'm pretty sure he can handle the PL. I know that now many players can, but I'm sure about Ribery. I wouldn't have made this suggestion if I wasn't sure.

And once more, his real physical age at which he expresses himself is not 36.

Edited by mattteo (13 Aug 2019 4.15pm)

Really?

 

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Originally posted by mattteo

The rigours of the Bundesliga are even more. Very serious approach there.

Guy was used to playing 50 matches or more per years and making World Cup finals.

I'm pretty sure he can handle the PL. I know that now many players can, but I'm sure about Ribery. I wouldn't have made this suggestion if I wasn't sure.

And once more, his real physical age at which he expresses himself is not 36.

Edited by mattteo (13 Aug 2019 4.15pm)

Read Max Meyers interview where he compared the two leagues

 

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Originally posted by mattteo

Palace doesn't have 8 players who averaged 50 minutes per game last year.

So doing that in Bayern Munich, one of the best clubs in the world, where competition is so tough, is a feat within itself.

That Ribery will sometimes need to be subbed off is one thing. But it's a huge difference to have him on for 70-80 minutes than not at all and play with Meyer 90 minutes.

He is also injury free now, so should be able to play more. Sometimes there are years with injuries, but Ribery had just very few days of injuriy since the torn ligament 2 years ago:

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Edited by mattteo (13 Aug 2019 8.31pm)

With all due respect, in the context of this discussion why state the figure 8 players?

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Aug 19 9.35pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

With all due respect, in the context of this discussion why state the figure 8 players?

Because that's how many players played on average 50 minutes or more for Palace in all games last year. Look it up.

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45 games means 4000 minutes. 50 minutes per game means around 2300 minutes.

And this was mentioned as a figure for Ribery that was supposed tonmean he played little. It's not really little to play 50 minutes on average of all games.

 

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