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View Gribbo's Profile Gribbo Flag Bromley 24 Aug 19 8.01pm Send a Private Message to Gribbo Add Gribbo as a friend

Not worried about the possession stats, we score goals when we transition the ball to attack quickly - home or away. Rolling it backwards and sideways in our own half just lets the opposition set up with 11 men behind the ball. I know Roy and Ray are vastly experienced, but if I can see that, surely they can. It is not about playing on the break, but moving it forward with pace.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 24 Aug 19 8.14pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Apart from being a volleyball term (which I'd like to keep out of football really), "transitioning" is as much about turning attack into defence as it is vice versa. You missed out the vital step of how we achieve these objectives.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Aug 19 8.17pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Couldn’t agree more. No other club at this level does what we do. When the opposition are vulnerable or somehow caught with a few men outnumbered or in front of the ball or whatever it is, we go sideways or don’t hit the ball in front of one of the players who will more often than not get to it first with a chance to improvise when he gets it. No, we think the ball and possession is most important, but when you can’t create anything and they’re happy for you to have it in that scenario then it’s really difficult to take watching it over and over.

One thing though. There is nothing wrong with counter attacking, even if you’re trying to be possession based. You won’t see a top side going, ‘no we won’t take that opportunity of 5 on 3 because we’re a possession based team so here you are Mr Right back, we’ll start again from here.’ No, they’re ruthless. We can punish teams but don’t. We should and can. Zaha and Ayew are fast enough.

 


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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 24 Aug 19 8.24pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Couldn’t agree more. No other club at this level does what we do. When the opposition are vulnerable or somehow caught with a few men outnumbered or in front of the ball or whatever it is, we go sideways or don’t hit the ball in front of one of the players who will more often than not get to it first with a chance to improvise when he gets it. No, we think the ball and possession is most important, but when you can’t create anything and they’re happy for you to have it in that scenario then it’s really difficult to take watching it over and over.

One thing though. There is nothing wrong with counter attacking, even if you’re trying to be possession based. You won’t see a top side going, ‘no we won’t take that opportunity of 5 on 3 because we’re a possession based team so here you are Mr Right back, we’ll start again from here.’ No, they’re ruthless. We can punish teams but don’t. We should and can. Zaha and Ayew are fast enough.

One of the biggest problems we have is our seriously shocking passing ability. None of our midfield 5 today are capable of simple passses let alone a decent pass and that also includes Townsend when he plays. Then you can also throw in our whole defence who struggle to pass with any acuracy. (Sakho has his good days). Meyer seems to me to be the only exception to this rule in our team.


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View Gribbo's Profile Gribbo Flag Bromley 24 Aug 19 9.28pm Send a Private Message to Gribbo Add Gribbo as a friend

Camarasa passed the ball about well for Cardiff last season.

 

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View ARGILE OLD GEEZER's Profile ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 25 Aug 19 6.57am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

Camarasa passed the ball about well for Cardiff last season.

He could be the best player in the Premiership, but it doesn't help us if Roy doesn't play him fingers crossed he will against Villa

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 25 Aug 19 9.51am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

What we all have to acknowledge is that 90% of the time Hodgson will prefer Schlupp over Meyer and McArthur over Camarasa.
Results and performances such as yesterday will only confirm his views in this regard and in a sense you can’t blame him.
I think Hodgson has a fundamental distrust of flair players as he’s not sure they’ll confirm to the rigid team shapes that he likes to lmpose.
Meyer has tried to conform but most of the time has looked like a fish out of water and in the system Hodgson plays Schlupp is a more reliable bet than Meyer.
When Hodgson discusses forward players Townsend and Ayew the first attributes he usually mentions are their defensive qualities which gives a clue to his thinking.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Aug 19 9.55am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

When I saw the headline I thought not another thread about Trans issues.

So how do you transition a football? Does it think it should be oval instead of round?

 


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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 25 Aug 19 10.06am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER

He could be the best player in the Premiership, but it doesn't help us if Roy doesn't play him fingers crossed he will against Villa

A bit like Max he doesn’t really fit the mould of Roy’s type of midfielder. He could be the creative spark we are all hoping for from midfield but I just think it’s going to take Roy a while to warm to him. I think his deals based on PL appearances so hopefully he’ll get enough opportunities.

 

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