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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 27 Aug 19 6.50pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Blown me away that one.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

Na....starts with a round up and just compounds it.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Na....starts with a round up and just compounds it.

But surely it's there in black and white
maths is weird

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

But surely it's there in black and white
maths is weird

Maths is perhaps the greatest conceptual achievement of the human race.....without it the Israelis might never have had a failed moon landing.....and I'd have had one less chuckle.

 


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deleted user Flag 27 Aug 19 7.42pm

Originally posted by cryrst

But surely it's there in black and white
maths is weird


An interesting one, for sure..


"The reason some people think they are not equal is they say 0.999... is slightly smaller. The question to ask is "But how much smaller would it be?" You'd have to answer something like "It's '0.000...1' smaller" but there is no such thing. "An infinate amount of zeros... and then a 1." But there is no "after infinity", there is no such thing as infinismal numbers. And logically, if you can't find a number that is between two values, the two values must be the same number."

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"Then what about 1.000... – 0.999...? You'll get an infinite string of zeroes. "But," you ask, "what about that '1' at the end?" Ah, but 0.999... is an infinite decimal; there is no "end", and thus there is no "1 at the end". The zeroes go on forever."

 

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It's an explanation of semantics, I believe 0.999 is not 1.

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It's maths semantics.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Aug 2019 8.12pm)

 


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There’s a lot in maths which doesn’t make ‘sense’ at face value.

Get in to complex numbers - knowing there’s ‘imaginary’ numbers took me a while to get my head around.

 

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deleted user Flag 27 Aug 19 8.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's an explanation of semantics, I believe 0.999 is not 1.

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It's maths semantics.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Aug 2019 8.12pm)

It's 0.9 reoccurring, rather than 0.999.

"Then what about 1.000... – 0.999...? You'll get an infinite string of zeroes. "But," you ask, "what about that '1' at the end?" Ah, but 0.999... is an infinite decimal; there is no "end", and thus there is no "1 at the end. The zeros go on forever". This is why it works across numerous proofs.


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Anyway cheers for the thread, Cryrst. Create a few more brain busters for us

Edited by dollardays (27 Aug 2019 8.26pm)

 

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deleted user Flag 27 Aug 19 8.28pm

Originally posted by DanH

There’s a lot in maths which doesn’t make ‘sense’ at face value.

Get in to complex numbers - knowing there’s ‘imaginary’ numbers took me a while to get my head around.

My bank balance regularly attests to this!

 

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Originally posted by dollardays

It's 0.9 reoccurring, rather than 0.999.

"Then what about 1.000... – 0.999...? You'll get an infinite string of zeroes. "But," you ask, "what about that '1' at the end?" Ah, but 0.999... is an infinite decimal; there is no "end", and thus there is no "1 at the end. The zeros go on forever". This is why it works across numerous proofs.


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Anyway cheers for the thread, Cryrst. Create a few more brain busters for us

Edited by dollardays (27 Aug 2019 8.26pm)

It all comes down to whether you accept the existence of non-zero infinitesimals.

Personally I find the idea that two numbers can equal the same value as faulty.....if 0.9999 = 1 then get rid of one of them....I view it as semantics.

Maths uses symbols to represent how nature operates....It isn't a perfect representation of nature as we can't see the underlying 'code' as it were.

Still, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Aug 2019 8.37pm)

 


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deleted user Flag 27 Aug 19 8.41pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It all comes down to whether you accept the existence of non-zero infinitesimals.

Personally I find the idea that two numbers can equal the same value as faulty.....if 0.9999 = 1 then get rid of one of them....I view it as semantics.

Maths uses symbols to represent how nature operates....It isn't a perfect representation of nature as we can't see the underlying 'code' as it were.

Still, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Aug 2019 8.37pm)

It's just my take on it of course. While I enjoy and use a couple of areas of mathematics, I can certainly confirm that I'm not a mathematician by any means!

 

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