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View samprior's Profile samprior Flag Hackney 28 Aug 19 10.23am Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

We have to maintain the 4-5-1 (or 4-3-3) on Saturday.

Two up top has worked in the past but this season we appear to have even less ability to make 3 passes in midfield. With 5 in midfield even with bad passing at least you see players able to still get involved in the game - as opposed to just having 2 up top with the game just passing them by. I'd go with just one change from last week (as they all more than earned their place) in order to be slightly more creative given we'll likely have a bit more possession. Could exchange Kouyate and MacArthur tbh.

Guaita
Ward Kelly Cahill PVA
Wilf Luka Camarasa MacArthur Schlupp
Ayew

Meyer/ to replace Camarasa after 65
Townsend on for Schlupp 75
Benteke on for Ayew 80

 

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View Master Coin's Profile Master Coin Flag 28 Aug 19 10.27am Send a Private Message to Master Coin Add Master Coin as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

You make good points, only there are tweaks and things possible during matches that are never done. Swapping Zaha and Townsend, earlier subs, not just like for like and sometimes more defensive.

Youíre right that Roy has had to work with little money, but itíll be frustrating again if itís just accepted we donít pick up a point or 3 in any of f our league games because plan A didnít work that week and the next and next home game. Thatís very different to when Roy came in and had it even worse if you count no striker (Benteke) at all being worse and Zaha and Townsend aiming to arrive in the box.

There are many things to knock Roy for (with subs and playing players out of position the most culpable) but this isnít it. Townsend is definitely a worse player on the left wing rather than right and at this point Wilf is an inferior winger on the right wing too. Swapping wings serves nothing.

If the point of swapping wings is to pander to Benteke then thatís madness. Taking two players from good* to average to bring Benteke up from bad to average is a bad trade.

* Admittedly Andros hasnít actually looked good this season so far but itís early and heíll come good based on prior evidence.

 

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View Ghostship's Profile Ghostship Flag Norfolk 28 Aug 19 10.28am Send a Private Message to Ghostship Add Ghostship as a friend

It seemed that against Spurs that Villa were quite attacking and got the lead then they parked the bus and tried to see it out but Spurs with their attacking players were able to break them down so they may try that tactic with us knowing that we struggle in this area. Therefore it is vital that we get the first goal. I just hope Roy finally changes our game plan and lets us attack with freedom rather than this negative backwards and sideways tippy tappy stuff that never produces anything.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Aug 19 11.10am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Master Coin

There are many things to knock Roy for (with subs and playing players out of position the most culpable) but this isnít it. Townsend is definitely a worse player on the left wing rather than right and at this point Wilf is an inferior winger on the right wing too. Swapping wings serves nothing.

If the point of swapping wings is to pander to Benteke then thatís madness. Taking two players from good* to average to bring Benteke up from bad to average is a bad trade.

* Admittedly Andros hasnít actually looked good this season so far but itís early and heíll come good based on prior evidence.

Yes you make a good point on Townsend, but Zaha isnít that much inferior on the right than the left. So Iíd have them swap at some points in the game because it asks different questions of full backs when we hav the usual stalemate. Obviously thatíll never happen (breaking a stalemate with anything intentional).

The aim is to score goals and if the supply works then the equation isnít so relevant. Itís a big Ďifí though.

Your logical post makes the Benteke extension even more ridiculous, which you probably agree with, unless we sign 2 direct crossing wingers and then a year or 2 later we need to feed a modern, smaller, faster footballer who can actually play football. I wouldnít be surprised.

 


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View Jway89's Profile Jway89 Flag 28 Aug 19 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Jway89 Add Jway89 as a friend

Can't really understand the negativity towards Hodgson. This is a team that at best can finish 12th. Roy, without spending any money, is doing a blinding job. I think we'll be fine. 4 points from 3 games ain't bad.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 28 Aug 19 12.39pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Palace struggling to score a single goal and playing without any real heart? You can expect that performance for most of the season.

Not sure what your optimism is based on?

I saw plenty of heart against Everton and United.
What I really learnt last night is quite how poor some of our players are particularly Wickham, Benteke, Riedewald and Meyer.

 

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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 28 Aug 19 12.44pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

it will be a different team on Saturday . I think there will be 6 changes .

 

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View Ghostship's Profile Ghostship Flag Norfolk 28 Aug 19 12.59pm Send a Private Message to Ghostship Add Ghostship as a friend

Originally posted by Jway89

Can't really understand the negativity towards Hodgson. This is a team that at best can finish 12th. Roy, without spending any money, is doing a blinding job. I think we'll be fine. 4 points from 3 games ain't bad.

I think people are becoming frustrated with his stubbornness and a lack of a tactical plan to rectify our dreadful home form. If he can do that then everything is fine.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 28 Aug 19 2.24pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

If that stocking of piss Benteke took one of his chances last night then we would have won comfortably. Also Wickham is completely shot as a football player. Those injuries have finished his career at the highest level. We need to get behind Ayew big style now as he is literally all we have as a striker.

Villa are all out attack in most games and that wont change at Selhurst. I am confident of a win. Their full backs are their weak link so lets play for a big game from Zaha.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 28 Aug 19 4.04pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Originally posted by Ghostship

I think people are becoming frustrated with his stubbornness and a lack of a tactical plan to rectify our dreadful home form. If he can do that then everything is fine.

of our last 9 at home in the league, we won 3, lost 3, drew 3.

that's 'dreadful'?


 

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View Ghostship's Profile Ghostship Flag Norfolk 28 Aug 19 4.43pm Send a Private Message to Ghostship Add Ghostship as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

of our last 9 at home in the league, we won 3, lost 3, drew 3.

that's 'dreadful'?


Ok dreadful maybe a bit harsh but only 3 wins in 9 is nothing to get excited about. Winning 1 in 3 home goals will only get you 6/7 home wins a season but luckily our away form saved us last season. Are there any Palace fans who actually enjoy watching the type of football we play at home? Doubt there are many.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 28 Aug 19 5.45pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

God only knows how it will pan out. A decent result would at least let us move on from the dire Colchester result. Not as though I'm bothered we're out of the Carabao Cup, but the performance..

 

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