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View .TUX.'s Profile .TUX. Flag 12 Sep 19 1.14am Send a Private Message to .TUX. Add .TUX. as a friend

Absolutely bud
Conspiracies are always a tricky topic tbf.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 12 Sep 19 6.31am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

meant to add that 9/11/08 was also the day the world suffered economic trauma. Probably a coincidence............

As is the fact that it's also my birthday. At least no-one forgets it now

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe 12 Sep 19 7.46am Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

It's just my take. People don't have to agree on everything

Obviously. A bit of objectivity every now and then would be nice to see though.

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Sep 19 9.48am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

It is odd how a load of experts say that the Towers and other building could not collapse like that unless they were pre wired.

I'm no expert so I have no idea what is possible but I do know that people are always happier to believe an explanation that makes them feel more comfortable.

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe 12 Sep 19 9.58am Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is odd how a load of experts say that the Towers and other building could not collapse like that unless they were pre wired.

I'm no expert so I have no idea what is possible but I do know that people are always happier to believe an explanation that makes them feel more comfortable.

I’m not sure there’s actually ‘a load’ in context of every expert asked on this topic.

People will certainly go for narratives that easily explain and answer the ‘why’, yes. The conspiracy in theory is much more logical and fits with the usual ‘bigger boys wot dun it’ narrative than a random, uncontrollable act of terrorism. Because the second option is so much more scary, and it doesn’t really answer the ‘why’? People love closure and certainty. If they didn’t then religion wouldn’t exist

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 12 Sep 19 10.11am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is odd how a load of experts say that the Towers and other building could not collapse like that unless they were pre wired.

I'm no expert so I have no idea what is possible but I do know that people are always happier to believe an explanation that makes them feel more comfortable.

I read that the buildings had an exo skeleton and centre cores.
The centre cores got wiped by the planes so collapsed in on itself.
They were brick and block.
If they were poured concrete then probably wouldn't have collapsed.
Now they are all poured concrete.
Check the new blocks going up and the shafts are first and built around.
Pre wired yeh some story that would make!

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Sep 19 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I read that the buildings had an exo skeleton and centre cores.
The centre cores got wiped by the planes so collapsed in on itself.
They were brick and block.
If they were poured concrete then probably wouldn't have collapsed.
Now they are all poured concrete.
Check the new blocks going up and the shafts are first and built around.
Pre wired yeh some story that would make!

The evidence as seen on live TV is that planes made the buildings burn and fall.
I am still a little puzzled as to why a third building seemingly collapsed by itself but none of that really tells us who was behind it all.

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe 12 Sep 19 12.48pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The evidence as seen on live TV is that planes made the buildings burn and fall.
I am still a little puzzled as to why a third building seemingly collapsed by itself but none of that really tells us who was behind it all.

All the information exists in the public domain for you to make a detailed and reasoned judgement, including specifics around WT7.

'Hypothetical blast events did not play a role in the collapse of WTC 7," the report states, adding that investigators "found no evidence whose explanation required invocation of a blast event." Moreover, the smallest charge capable of initiating column failure "would have resulted in a sound level of 130 dB [decibels] to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile." Witnesses did not report hearing such a loud noise, nor is one audible on recordings of the collapse.'

But maybe they were using super special area51 technologies that made the blasts inaudible! Or maybe they built them into the walls and gagged hundreds of contractors when the building was first built in 1973. A grand plan, finally executed. Or maybe the simplest, least complex solution in this instance is the right one.

Also, if you were the CIA you'd have to be pretty stupid to keep all your plans to demolish the WTC, in the WTC. And then not demolish your own building at the same time to avoid suspicion. But then the government are stupid aren't they? Stupid enough to concoct such an insanely complex plan and pull it off, right? Right?

Not all conspiracy theories are completely loony but sometimes it's good to give the social exclusion feeding a need to feel secure and in control while maintaining a positive self-image a rest.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Sep 19 4.26pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

No conspiracy, just extreme incompetence.

Edited by dollardays (11 Sep 2019 11.31pm)


surely the best defence is to not motivate baddies in the first place ? Any military superpower will always run a risk of terrorism in its homeland.

 


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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 12 Sep 19 4.42pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is odd how a load of experts say that the Towers and other building could not collapse like that unless they were pre wired.

I'm no expert so I have no idea what is possible but I do know that people are always happier to believe an explanation that makes them feel more comfortable.

Planes, hijacked by terrorists, crashing into a tower block and killing thousands is horrific enough in its own right.

I'm not sure that it's a matter of searching for a more comforting version. Rather just what is more probable to have happened.

While it's not impossible for a government to harm or even kill its own people with a wider aim in mind, I don't tend to think that on this scale and how many people would've had to have been involved, it makes it very unlikely.

If we go down this controlled explosion route, why even involve planes in the first place? Just pin explosions on a terror group. The amount of simultaneous aspects that are apparently going on if this is a conspiracy seems both surplus to requirements and improbable that it wouldn't come out at some point.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 12 Sep 19 4.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The evidence as seen on live TV is that planes made the buildings burn and fall.
I am still a little puzzled as to why a third building seemingly collapsed by itself but none of that really tells us who was behind it all.

He's a lefty but one I respect, Myles Power, and here is his video on WTC 7.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Sep 2019 4.43pm)

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 12 Sep 19 4.53pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


surely the best defence is to not motivate baddies in the first place ? Any military superpower will always run a risk of terrorism in its homeland.

I certainly don't agree with our optional interventions abroad, or attempts by contractors and corporations to profit from occupying nations or parlaying disasters like 9/11 into largely opportunistic wars. We have had a hand in destabilising and contributing to misery, there is no doubt about that.

On the other hand though, if people train themselves up to commit a horrendous act like the one in question on account that they feel it will take them to paradise, they're not operating with a full deck. You can only take so much responsibility for others actions, especially if they choose to target innocents.


Edited by dollardays (12 Sep 2019 4.55pm)

 

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