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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 29 Sep 19 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I take the implied point about meritocracy.

However, have a look at the GDP of Croatia...or indeed most other countries and compare them to ours.

The 'real' English are fine.....and its duds are still worthy of their birthright because essentially.....they are our duds.

I'm not going to sell them out because someone with a foreign accent is higher achieving than them.

Allegiance matters more......though I accept that there is a wider European allegiance also.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Sep 2019 1.42pm)

Not sure where this 'allegiance' stuff comes into it if I am honest. Whilst I make no bones about my Western Chauvinism, I also put as much emphasis on values as I do accidents of birth in terms of who I identify with.

And I despair of the dumbing down of working-class culture in this country. Where you are more likely to find a television attached to a wall than a painting or book-cases that contain everything else other than actual books. And we, collectively, have to take some of the blame for that. The working class sold their collective political souls for a chance to play golf at the weekends and take off for two weeks a year in some soul-destroying all-inclusive luxury prison camp in a third-world s*** hole.

However, I also concede that I can be a bit odd and yearn for the day in which the notion of teaching primary school children the basics of Hellenistic philosophy trumps any nonsense about cartoon penguins having two dads.

With 'Meditations' by Marcus Aurelius the base for our entire educational syllabus!


 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 29 Sep 19 2.23pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

spend loads on consumer goods versus spending frugally.

the former are working class.

What a load of bollox

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 29 Sep 19 2.26pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


And I despair of the dumbing down of working-class culture in this country. Where you are more likely to find a television attached to a wall than a painting or book-cases that contain everything else other than actual books.

Wall mounting a TV gives you far more useable space in the room and who needs bookcases stuffed with books in the age of the Kindle.

It's common sense and nothing to do with class

 

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Originally posted by Matov

Not sure where this 'allegiance' stuff comes into it if I am honest. Whilst I make no bones about my Western Chauvinism, I also put as much emphasis on values as I do accidents of birth in terms of who I identify with.

And I despair of the dumbing down of working-class culture in this country. Where you are more likely to find a television attached to a wall than a painting or book-cases that contain everything else other than actual books. And we, collectively, have to take some of the blame for that. The working class sold their collective political souls for a chance to play golf at the weekends and take off for two weeks a year in some soul-destroying all-inclusive luxury prison camp in a third-world s*** hole.

However, I also concede that I can be a bit odd and yearn for the day in which the notion of teaching primary school children the basics of Hellenistic philosophy trumps any nonsense about cartoon penguins having two dads.

With 'Meditations' by Marcus Aurelius the base for our entire educational syllabus!

Ah a Stoicist....probably the best value system there is. I couldn't agree more and of course western chauvinism is just a recognition of reality.


 


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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 29 Sep 19 3.55pm Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

A few weeks ago Carol Midgley, in The Times, wrote , in response to Meghan Markle claiming to be working class, that you have to have drunk tea from a giant sports direct mug before qualifying.
Made me smile as i read it drinking my tea in the giant sports mug , dunking plain chocolate digestives.

 

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Originally posted by sickboy

A few weeks ago Carol Midgley, in The Times, wrote , in response to Meghan Markle claiming to be working class, that you have to have drunk tea from a giant sports direct mug before qualifying.
Made me smile as i read it drinking my tea in the giant sports mug , dunking plain chocolate digestives.

very risky SB, one dunk only or the lot plops into your mug making one unholy mess once its happened several times.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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View kingdowieonthewall's Profile kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 29 Sep 19 4.31pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

caravan holidays-middle class or working class?
dad was ambulance driver / mum housewife, part time cleaner, so often a week in a caravan in Bognor, camber sands etc.was it.
However a lot of middle class types tend to enjoy this also.

 


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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 29 Sep 19 4.52pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

caravan holidays-middle class or working class?
dad was ambulance driver / mum housewife, part time cleaner, so often a week in a caravan in Bognor, camber sands etc.was it.
However a lot of middle class types tend to enjoy this also.

Camber and Rye were family favourites for years when I was growing up, and Broadstairs & Whitstable, but not Margate which my aunt really loved, our mum didn't like it.

 

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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 29 Sep 19 4.55pm Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

very risky SB, one dunk only or the lot plops into your mug making one unholy mess once its happened several times.

One dunk then the whole lot in.

 

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Originally posted by sickboy

One dunk then the whole lot in.

tunnocks caramel wafer , that's what you want.
will take multiple dunkage .

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
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Originally posted by sickboy

A few weeks ago Carol Midgley, in The Times, wrote , in response to Meghan Markle claiming to be working class, that you have to have drunk tea from a giant sports direct mug before qualifying.
Made me smile as i read it drinking my tea in the giant sports mug , dunking plain chocolate digestives.

Middle class will have McVities. Working class will have Aldi chocolate biscuits. The classical distinction.

 


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.TUX. Flag 29 Sep 19 5.17pm

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

tunnocks caramel wafer , that's what you want.
will take multiple dunkage .

Never without a packet (or 4) in the fridge. A childhood favourite that has stood the test of time.
Yum.

 


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