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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 02 Nov 19 11.41am Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sounds pretty sensible to me.

Surely football should try to be as non political as possible. Anyone turning up to matches to shout racial abuse is not doing themselves or the club any good and I think most, if not nearly all of us, can agree on that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2019 11.36am)

Yes that's it. I think being both a team member or a supporter involves certain basic responsibilities to each other to remain a cohesive unit. Beyond that though it shouldn't be about policing political beliefs, because they vary greatly between people and are neither here nor there in the context of the sport.

 

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Originally posted by dollardays

Yes that's it. I think being both a team member or a supporter involves certain basic responsibilities to each other to remain a cohesive unit. Beyond that though it shouldn't be about policing political beliefs, because they vary greatly between people and are neither here nor there in the context of the sport.

Yep, when we pass through those turnstiles or new fangled set ups we are all CP supporters and until we pass back through them again anything else is tiresome and unwelcome.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2019 11.59am)

 

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View derby eagle's Profile derby eagle Flag Derby 02 Nov 19 10.08pm Send a Private Message to derby eagle Add derby eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Football clubs and matches are for everybody....not just for people you like or agree with.

There is no requirement for a consensus upon opinions on race, religion or immigration or indeed anything political.

I don't regard the attendance at football matches to really involve anything other than football related themes.

If others do that on whatever side of a political position, it's for them. I regard it rather poorly. I would rather politics and sport existed in their own forums.

What I do object to is forced obedience to very one eyed and politically shaped language. I view it as just as political and malign.


Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2019 11.08am)


Palace is indeed for everybody when they leave their views at the gate and do not associate their views with the club.

I am not sure that you envisaged a group of fans in the name of CPFC, coalessing around a far right group (DFLA) in secret. I take it you agree with that statement?

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 02 Nov 19 11.36pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by derby eagle


Palace is indeed for everybody when they leave their views at the gate and do not associate their views with the club.

I am not sure that you envisaged a group of fans in the name of CPFC, coalessing around a far right group (DFLA) in secret. I take it you agree with that statement?

Hasnít all this been agreed? Or are you on some Tom Joad ďIíll be thereĒ kick?

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Hasnít all this been agreed? Or are you on some Tom Joad ďIíll be thereĒ kick?

No. It appears to be a lot mealy mouthed acceptance that we have racists in the ranks and that's ok because we are a broad church. When it comes to right wing activists in the ranks? No.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 03 Nov 19 12.09am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by derby eagle

No. It appears to be a lot mealy mouthed acceptance that we have racists in the ranks and that's ok because we are a broad church. When it comes to right wing activists in the ranks? No.

Fine by me. Can we also ban vegans? I donít agree with them.

 

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Originally posted by derby eagle


Palace is indeed for everybody when they leave their views at the gate and do not associate their views with the club.

I am not sure that you envisaged a group of fans in the name of CPFC, coalessing around a far right group (DFLA) in secret. I take it you agree with that statement?

I'm quite sure I don't see the DFLA in the same light as you do.

However regardless, I certainly do agree that a football ground is not the place for politics and should indeed be a bit of escapism for all of us.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 03 Nov 19 1.06am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I certainly do agree that a football ground is not the place for politics and should indeed be a bit of escapism for all of us.

correct. Remove ALL politics and religion from football.

including :

national anthems
remembrance poppies
players praying before playing
speeches or logo's about racism, LGBT, whatever.
military uniforms


i dont think you get all that stuff at the cinema, and it is an entertainment for spectators.

 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Fine by me. Can we also ban vegans? I donít agree with them.

Are you equating the far right with vegans?

Edited by derby eagle (03 Nov 2019 1.08am)

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm quite sure I don't see the DFLA in the same light as you do.

However regardless, I certainly do agree that a football ground is not the place for politics and should indeed be a bit of escapism for all of us.

So how do you equate DFLA then?

 

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Originally posted by derby eagle

Are you equating the far right with vegans?

Edited by derby eagle (03 Nov 2019 1.08am)

No but I donít agree with them. Isnít that the point?

 

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

correct. Remove ALL politics and religion from football.

including :

national anthems
remembrance poppies
players praying before playing
speeches or logo's about racism, LGBT, whatever.
military uniforms


i dont think you get all that stuff at the cinema, and it is an entertainment for spectators.

National anthems for internationals makes sense.

I'd turn up with a pinned poppy in early November but then again I'd also do that at a cinema.....if a player wants to pray before a match that's for them.

But I agree, it's a football match and we need to stick to that.

 

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