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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 03 Dec 19 12.54am Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Really?

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I do appreciate that there has been a bit of an uptick, but I don't really see Corbyn as being an asset for Labour. You could spin a wheel and replace him with just about anyone and they'd be polling better.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 03 Dec 19 5.10am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Every time corbyn opens his mouth more money falls out.
I reckon he doesnt actually want to win so is trying to price himself out of the race.
The sad thing Is that there are so many takers in our country that free everything appeals.
There will be more free stuff promises.
If labour win we are all soooooo f***ed.
Social Equality will prevail for the many not the few.
Equally poor I think.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 Dec 19 7.58am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Saw a friend last night who is not political and rarely says anything hurtful or controversial. However he went into one over Jo Swinson he does not like the woman.

Makes me wonder when someone like that criticises her she is more of a liability to her party than Corbyn is to Labour.

Apparently she is in danger of losing her seat to the SNP.

Still all to play for it's for the Tories to lose at this stage.

Edited by Badger11 (03 Dec 2019 7.59am)

 


One more point

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Dec 19 11.35am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Saw a friend last night who is not political and rarely says anything hurtful or controversial. However he went into one over Jo Swinson he does not like the woman.

Makes me wonder when someone like that criticises her she is more of a liability to her party than Corbyn is to Labour.

I think that's why Teresa May made such a hash of the last election as people simply didn't warm to her enough and she made the mistake of making herself the centre piece of their election promotion

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Dec 19 11.41am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Radio 5 are having all of the party leaders along in turn to answer questions posed by listeners.

Boris, Mrs Krankie and the Plaid fellow have all had their turn and today it was Nigel Farage.

I feel guilty as I rather like the bloke. He seems to talk sense about most things, is happy to say that he doesn't know if he doesn't know and deals with stroppy hecklers well

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Dec 19 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Radio 5 are having all of the party leaders along in turn to answer questions posed by listeners.

Boris, Mrs Krankie and the Plaid fellow have all had their turn and today it was Nigel Farage.

I feel guilty as I rather like the bloke. He seems to talk sense about most things, is happy to say that he doesn't know if he doesn't know and deals with stroppy hecklers well

Farage exposes the mediocrity of current party leaders.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 03 Dec 19 12.14pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Farage exposes the mediocrity of current party leaders.

Certainly in terms of public speaking and debate heís miles clear, but the content is predominantly nonsense - thereís a reason heís never been elected.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 03 Dec 19 12.28pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Saw a friend last night who is not political and rarely says anything hurtful or controversial. However he went into one over Jo Swinson he does not like the woman.

Makes me wonder when someone like that criticises her she is more of a liability to her party than Corbyn is to Labour.

Apparently she is in danger of losing her seat to the SNP.

Still all to play for it's for the Tories to lose at this stage.

Edited by Badger11 (03 Dec 2019 7.59am)

Everyone is saying this, and as much as I've highlighted Corbyn's shortcomings, I acknowledge that he is passionate about his politics. Swinson just comes across like a smarmy know it all rather than a leader..

If there's any more votes to me squeezed out for Labour, they'll likely come through her turning people off.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Dec 19 12.50pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Didnít you claim to be a remainer tory?

I am. The current Tory Party is little more than the "Brexit Party Light". It has no resemblance to the party I supported. It's a total disgrace. Just as the current Labour Party is.

Which gives people like me a huge problem at this election as the only party that begins to represent our views has no chance of forming a government and no chance of winning the seat locally to help secure the balance of power needed.

So tactical voting is essential. The over riding priority must be to stop the Tories securing an overall majority. It looks unlikely, but nevertheless the effort needs to be made. When faced with two awful choices a choice still needs to be made. So you choose the least worst option.

As a member of "More United" I agree with their approach and will be voting tactically to do my level best to ensure that the country is not plunged into the disaster that the Tories seem determined to inflict upon us.


 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Dec 19 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

What a complete and utter fake.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 19 2.22pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am. The current Tory Party is little more than the "Brexit Party Light". It has no resemblance to the party I supported. It's a total disgrace. Just as the current Labour Party is.

Which gives people like me a huge problem at this election as the only party that begins to represent our views has no chance of forming a government and no chance of winning the seat locally to help secure the balance of power needed.

So tactical voting is essential. The over riding priority must be to stop the Tories securing an overall majority. It looks unlikely, but nevertheless the effort needs to be made. When faced with two awful choices a choice still needs to be made. So you choose the least worst option.

As a member of "More United" I agree with their approach and will be voting tactically to do my level best to ensure that the country is not plunged into the disaster that the Tories seem determined to inflict upon us.


What may I humby enquire is the "Least worst option" as far as you are concerned ?

Another 'Hung Parliament' with further Brexit dither and delay with Corbyn as PM propped up by the SNP and their 'Red lines'
Or a Labour majority with all the dire consequences for our nation ?
The above two scenarios would certainly "Inflict disaster" !!!!

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Dec 19 9.50pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

What may I humby enquire is the "Least worst option" as far as you are concerned ?

Another 'Hung Parliament' with further Brexit dither and delay with Corbyn as PM propped up by the SNP and their 'Red lines'
Or a Labour majority with all the dire consequences for our nation ?
The above two scenarios would certainly "Inflict disaster" !!!!

The idea that voting Tory will "get Brexit done" and avoid further dither is a total fallacy. It will take at least another year of cliff edge negotiation with the threat of reverting to a "no deal" exit. As everyone with actual knowledge of this type of negotiation has said these can take many years to conclude. Without any doubt this is by far the worst option which must be avoided at all costs. The public are being fed a diet of endless lies.

The truth is that the quickest way to "get Brexit done" is to cancel it. The second quickest would be to negotiate a soft Brexit as staying in the customs union would not require ANY renegotiation of the trading relationship.

So the least worst option would be to cancel it completely, either immediately or after a referendum. Failing that would be a soft Brexit.

Only a hung Parliament can deliver those options. Corbyn can be contained until the threat of a hard Brexit is consigned to history and we hold, yet another, election. By which time we can only hope that Johnson has been dumped as the Tories regain their senses and again understand the need to hold the middle ground and choose a unifier as their leader.

 

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