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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Dec 19 10.42pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

For someone who has supposedly done al the things he has done, he really is a bit thick.

I always find it strangely satisfying when you exhibit your jealousy of others who have led interesting lives.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Dec 19 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

Read the f***ing post you dipstick,its not the only reason but to deny it's not a factor is cloud cuckoo land.
If the population has risen by 10 million in the last ten years,a lot of those are going to be immigrants.
Go to any a&e department in any inner city and look for yourself.

As I said in that post ,I have no worries with my gp s or hospitals in my area....but it's not a high immigration area.

Perhaps you would care to read some of mine. Immigrants pay into the system. If the population grows so should the system. But instead the government uses the extra income in other areas instead of providing necessary basic support. Simply a big ponzi scheme relying on continuing population growth

Edited by Mapletree (11 Dec 2019 10.48pm)

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 11 Dec 19 10.57pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Perhaps you would care to read some of mine. Immigrants pay into the system.

Edited by Mapletree (11 Dec 2019 10.48pm)

I actually have some sympathy with the rest of your post but this particular point has to be addressed.

Some Immigrants pay into the system. Ones from the EU for example contribute more than they take out. But others do not. Never quite understood why the Remain types never made more of this.

I get why we need more migrants coming into the country, a stance that puts me at odds with many on the Leave side. And it is for the best that those come from EU nations for a variety of reasons. Problem with the Left is that they try and soft-coat the issue rather than being honest with people.

If you would rather have two holidays a year and a new car every three rather than make the sacrifice and have kids then the UK needs to find new blood from somewhere. Better those come from Europe than elsewhere.


 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Dec 19 11.02pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Vote CONSERVATIVE tomorrow and stop Corbyn entering No 10.He is a marxist, an IRA supporter and a friend of other terrorist organisations, whose is hell-bent on overthrowing capitalism and inflicting his ruinous policies on our great nation.

His 'Change' is a recipe for ruin,nationalise utilities,soak businesses and middle earners with new taxes and fund a National Investment Bank with £250 BILLION of borrowed money. Not forgetting confiscating 10% of shares in large companies etc etc etc.It really is the economics of the madhouse.Labour would plunge this country into the abyss.Comrade Corbyn would be in coalition with the SNP, hell-bent on breaking up the union.

Corbyn would destroy our economy and great country so I would urge one and all to vote CONSERVATIVE tomorrow.A vote for anyone else is a vote for Corbyn's marxist nightmare and a further dither and delay over Brexit with the affect this has on business.

Nothing more to add - I have a very busy day tomorrow.

Edited by Willo (11 Dec 2019 11.04pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Dec 19 11.11pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

I actually have some sympathy with the rest of your post but this particular point has to be addressed.

Some Immigrants pay into the system. Ones from the EU for example contribute more than they take out. But others do not. Never quite understood why the Remain types never made more of this.

I get why we need more migrants coming into the country, a stance that puts me at odds with many on the Leave side. And it is for the best that those come from EU nations for a variety of reasons. Problem with the Left is that they try and soft-coat the issue rather than being honest with people.

If you would rather have two holidays a year and a new car every three rather than make the sacrifice and have kids then the UK needs to find new blood from somewhere. Better those come from Europe than elsewhere.


Not quite sure what point you are making. This link provides the facts.

[Link]

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 11 Dec 19 11.16pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Not quite sure what point you are making. This link provides the facts.

[Link]

A bit confused. I never mentioned 'health tourism'. Perhaps I got the wrong end of the stick?

I was referring to the wider net figure concerning taxation collected v state expenditure.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Dec 19 11.23pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I might ask Alexa to wake me up if anything interesting happens

Sounds like you have a young 5th missus. You a sugar daddy?

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Dec 19 11.24pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

A bit confused. I never mentioned 'health tourism'. Perhaps I got the wrong end of the stick?

I was referring to the wider net figure concerning taxation collected v state expenditure.

Is this more what you had in mind?

[Link]

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Dec 19 11.25pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Good call. I used to stay up late but can't be bothered these days. The bits I like best on election night is the MPs who get it wildly wrong. It's 5 mins to go before the polls close what do you think "Landslide for my party". 4am in the morning "humble pie anyone?"

Paddy Ashdown never did eat his hat.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 11 Dec 19 11.29pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Is this more what you had in mind?

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Certainly far more in line and I believe the same people have done more detailed research about the specific impact of EU citizens in terms of taxation.

As I said, why Remainers never made more of this I struggle to understand outside of perhaps them not wanting to draw attention to the negative contribution of those not from the EU.

But I am fully of the opinion that the UK needs more people to come and not only work but settle here and that we are far better off with that migration being primarily European.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Dec 19 12.02am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Paddy Ashdown never did eat his hat.

Thank you I had forgotten his name.

 


One more point

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Dec 19 12.17am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Certainly far more in line and I believe the same people have done more detailed research about the specific impact of EU citizens in terms of taxation.

As I said, why Remainers never made more of this I struggle to understand outside of perhaps them not wanting to draw attention to the negative contribution of those not from the EU.

But I am fully of the opinion that the UK needs more people to come and not only work but settle here and that we are far better off with that migration being primarily European.

I think I probably agree with why you feel we would be better off with migration from Europe rather than cultures or a religion so different to ours, however, the problem I had from the very word go was that the original migration sucked up all the career trades by east Europeans with bosses more than okay with never training a single British youngster ever again, and that has come out in the referendum. As far as integrating into society goes, I don’t see the problems ahead as we’re seeing with some other isolated communities by choice, but that said, I don’t think the situation of status quo is a very acceptable one for people who voted leave because they feel they’ve been shelved or filed under ‘what’s the point of you when someone non British in Britain is economically more beneficial.’

 


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