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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 10 Nov 19 1.49pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It could only be a stirling thread with such utter nonsense.

Why nonsense?

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Nov 19 2.30pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

What’s wrong with that?

Got something against pink dresses?

Better than a gimp suit with a swastika armband.

Isn't it usually the case that people who espouse diversity normally don't live in those most diverse neighbourhoods themselves.
I have two schools down the block from me with a lot of white teachers & am willing to bet that after they finish their shift they piss off back home to Park Slope, Astoria or White Plains & never Hunt's Point, East New York or Jamaica.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 10 Nov 19 2.36pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

while a foreigner may be a wonderful person the British NHS should be staffed by the British and not relying upon cheaper alternatives.

Much of the problem is down to the nursing association wanting higher and higher educational qualifications to enter the profession which has resulted in employing more nurses who are good at passing exams at the expense of people who actually have an aptitude for the job plus the Government withdrawing the bursaries paid to student nurses so they now have to fund their own three year studies

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 10 Nov 19 2.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Much of the problem is down to the nursing association wanting higher and higher educational qualifications to enter the profession which has resulted in employing more nurses who are good at passing exams at the expense of people who actually have an aptitude for the job plus the Government withdrawing the bursaries paid to student nurses so they now have to fund their own three year studies

Totally agree.

Wrong headed elitism.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 10 Nov 19 2.50pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Do you think people from the Congo are just like people from Buckinghamshire? (Assuming Buckinghamshire isn’t already full of people from the Congo).

Certainly not but there is the danger, especially with the politically strident, of leveraging select personal experiences to make a point that becomes rather overreaching and incomplete. As you've said you've had these experience. I've told you mine. There's little point in overplaying either hand, or letting aversions colour other people, from wherever, in such a sweeping way when many genuinely do a good job.

However, as others have said, the ideal is that training is structured in such a way that we don't 'need' to prop up the health service with individuals from abroad anyway. Logically there is no reason why we should have to. Maybe post Brexit we will start to shift towards that model, but with our politicians I wouldn't bank on it.

Edited by dollardays (10 Nov 2019 3.13pm)

 

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 10 Nov 19 3.17pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

“The strongest evidence for conspiracy comes from one of Labour’s own. Andrew Neather, a previously unheard-of speechwriter for Blair, Straw and Blunkett, popped up with an article in the Evening Standard in October 2009 which gave the game away.

Immigration, he wrote, ‘didn’t just happen; the deliberate policy of Ministers from late 2000…was to open up the UK to mass immigration’.

He was at the heart of policy in September 2001, drafting the landmark speech by the then Immigration Minister Barbara Roche, and he reported ‘coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended - even if this wasn’t its main purpose - to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date’.

That seemed, even to him, a manoeuvre too far.

The result is now plain for all to see. Even Blair’s favourite think tank, the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR), commented recently: ‘It is no exaggeration to say that immigration under New Labour has changed the face of the country.’

It is not hard to see why Labour’s own apparatchiks supported the policy. Provided that the white working class didn’t cotton on, there were votes in it.

Research into voting patterns conducted for the Electoral Commission after the 2005 general election found that 80 per cent of Caribbean and African voters had voted Labour, while only about 3 per cent had voted Conservative and roughly 8 per cent for the Liberal Democrats.

The Asian vote was split about 50 per cent for Labour, 10 per cent Conservatives and 15 per cent Liberal Democrats.

Nor should we underestimate the power of ‘community leaders’ who have strong influence in constituency Labour parties and who, of course, benefit from a growth in numbers“

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 10 Nov 19 3.30pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

I would say changing the ethnic make up of a country is a very large decision to make. Can anyone remind me when the people got to vote on this one particular decision.?

 

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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Online Flag Deal or Croydon 10 Nov 19 4.07pm Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

I would say changing the ethnic make up of a country is a very large decision to make. Can anyone remind me when the people got to vote on this one particular decision.?

When they fell for Blairs New Labour, smoke and mirrors act.
I've always wondered how much better off we would be as a country had John Smith lived.
I'm not a labour supporter but he , i thought, seemed a decent man who would have made a fine leader.
Sliding doors etc....

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 10 Nov 19 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

I would say changing the ethnic make up of a country is a very large decision to make. Can anyone remind me when the people got to vote on this one particular decision.?

This is the scandalous and far reaching nature of what New Labour did.

That said, they just accelerated a political decision that had been decided a generation before.

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 10 Nov 19 4.41pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by W12

“The strongest evidence for conspiracy comes from one of Labour’s own. Andrew Neather, a previously unheard-of speechwriter for Blair, Straw and Blunkett, popped up with an article in the Evening Standard in October 2009 which gave the game away.

Immigration, he wrote, ‘didn’t just happen; the deliberate policy of Ministers from late 2000…was to open up the UK to mass immigration’.

He was at the heart of policy in September 2001, drafting the landmark speech by the then Immigration Minister Barbara Roche, and he reported ‘coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended - even if this wasn’t its main purpose - to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date’.

That seemed, even to him, a manoeuvre too far.

The result is now plain for all to see. Even Blair’s favourite think tank, the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR), commented recently: ‘It is no exaggeration to say that immigration under New Labour has changed the face of the country.’

It is not hard to see why Labour’s own apparatchiks supported the policy. Provided that the white working class didn’t cotton on, there were votes in it.

Research into voting patterns conducted for the Electoral Commission after the 2005 general election found that 80 per cent of Caribbean and African voters had voted Labour, while only about 3 per cent had voted Conservative and roughly 8 per cent for the Liberal Democrats.

The Asian vote was split about 50 per cent for Labour, 10 per cent Conservatives and 15 per cent Liberal Democrats.

Nor should we underestimate the power of ‘community leaders’ who have strong influence in constituency Labour parties and who, of course, benefit from a growth in numbers“

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Yep, as things are going the long term future is left and increasing social incohesion......that's what happens when you have large scale immigration from diverse cultures....minorities vote against the majority interest in large numbers....Until they become powerful enough to control their own fiefdoms.

The more diverse something is the less trust there is between those elements. This is true even within similar groups....The logic of it is so simple that you can even see it in football with rivalries.

At the individual and filtered level it can be different but I'm talking holistically....because that's what society is...the average effect over large populations.

That's why you have gated communities, white flight and ghettos....it's a manifestation of the division between what people say and what they actually do....and in many cases actually tell themselves.

We have a lot of people who are more interested in what their peer group think of them than the truth of something......They come from a soft generation raised to promote positivity over reality.

Diversity isn't a strength.....It's a weakness and always has been.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Nov 2019 4.52pm)

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 10 Nov 19 8.08pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

most adverts have a black dad white mum.

sometimes you see this the other way around ?

including out and about in Croydon ?

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 11 Nov 19 7.00am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

sometimes you see this the other way around ?

including out and about in Croydon ?

Yes somtimes not most of the time like adverts suggest

 

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