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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 13 Nov 19 12.13pm Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

Originally posted by punksnotdead

Overrated Liam Gallagher , Paul Weller, The Beatles

Underrated The Ruts, The Selector, The Damned

Sorry but I can never let it pass when some says the Beatles were overrated.

I am not saying everyone need has to necessarily like their music ( although I find it strange, considering their huge output, that anyone could not cannot find some stuff they like) but to say they are overrated is to completely overlook what they did and the effect they had on popular music.

When the Beatles arrived in January 1963 with Please Please Me they had a monumental impact on the music scene and paved the way for all the other "beat groups"that followed. Prior to 1963 the charts were pretty anodyne with ballads, watered down rock & roll, novelty records and instrumentals. Prior to the Beatles the group concept, something we take for granted now, of performers playing instruments and singing hardly existed.

The emergence of The Beatles was like a bright light being switched on after the dull and turgid state popular music had descended into . They looked different, their sound was fresh and immediately engaging, they wrote their own music ( at least their singles), and turned the whole music scene upside down. Many existing artists suddenly found themselves redundant with their musical style rendered out dated at a stroke.

One of the most impressive things about them was that they never became complacent. They were innovators always leading the way be it in their song writing, imaginative use of instrumentation, lyrics, album cover design, playing live in stadiums, and much more.

Perhaps it would be stretching it to say that music today wouldn't be what it is without The Beatles, but they provided the springboard for what followed and opened up new horizons for fellow artists.

Okay, so their early releases likes of She Loves You may sound a bit simplistic now, but you have place what they did in the context of the period - 1963 ( and indeed 1970 when they split) were very different times from 2019.

I rest my case m'lud.

ps I do agree with you regards Paul Weller

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Nov 19 12.14pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The most criminally underated band I ever came across was:

David Devant and his spirit wife.

I still regularly play some of their stuff....my favourite being their 'Dolphin Square'....I'll do a cover of it one day.

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View djcpfc's Profile djcpfc Flag Warminster Road, Brisbane Ex-pat 13 Nov 19 12.14pm Send a Private Message to djcpfc Add djcpfc as a friend

Overrated

Suede
Flaming Lips
The Killers
Kaiser Chief

Dogs**+* sold millions of records to people who havenít listen to them in the last 5 years.

Underrated

Stiff Little Fingers
Skunk Anansie
Porcupine Tree

Amazing music that seldom gets heard.

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 13 Nov 19 1.01pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

Sorry but I can never let it pass when some says the Beatles were overrated.

I am not saying everyone need has to necessarily like their music ( although I find it strange, considering their huge output, that anyone could not cannot find some stuff they like) but to say they are overrated is to completely overlook what they did and the effect they had on popular music.

When the Beatles arrived in January 1963 with Please Please Me they had a monumental impact on the music scene and paved the way for all the other "beat groups"that followed. Prior to 1963 the charts were pretty anodyne with ballads, watered down rock & roll, novelty records and instrumentals. Prior to the Beatles the group concept, something we take for granted now, of performers playing instruments and singing hardly existed.

The emergence of The Beatles was like a bright light being switched on after the dull and turgid state popular music had descended into . They looked different, their sound was fresh and immediately engaging, they wrote their own music ( at least their singles), and turned the whole music scene upside down. Many existing artists suddenly found themselves redundant with their musical style rendered out dated at a stroke.

One of the most impressive things about them was that they never became complacent. They were innovators always leading the way be it in their song writing, imaginative use of instrumentation, lyrics, album cover design, playing live in stadiums, and much more.

Perhaps it would be stretching it to say that music today wouldn't be what it is without The Beatles, but they provided the springboard for what followed and opened up new horizons for fellow artists.

Okay, so their early releases likes of She Loves You may sound a bit simplistic now, but you have place what they did in the context of the period - 1963 ( and indeed 1970 when they split) were very different times from 2019.

I rest my case m'lud.

ps I do agree with you regards Paul Weller

I would argue that The Beatles were in fact underrated.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Nov 19 1.12pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

Sorry but I can never let it pass when some says the Beatles were overrated.

I am not saying everyone need has to necessarily like their music ( although I find it strange, considering their huge output, that anyone could not cannot find some stuff they like) but to say they are overrated is to completely overlook what they did and the effect they had on popular music.

When the Beatles arrived in January 1963 with Please Please Me they had a monumental impact on the music scene and paved the way for all the other "beat groups"that followed. Prior to 1963 the charts were pretty anodyne with ballads, watered down rock & roll, novelty records and instrumentals. Prior to the Beatles the group concept, something we take for granted now, of performers playing instruments and singing hardly existed.

The emergence of The Beatles was like a bright light being switched on after the dull and turgid state popular music had descended into . They looked different, their sound was fresh and immediately engaging, they wrote their own music ( at least their singles), and turned the whole music scene upside down. Many existing artists suddenly found themselves redundant with their musical style rendered out dated at a stroke.

One of the most impressive things about them was that they never became complacent. They were innovators always leading the way be it in their song writing, imaginative use of instrumentation, lyrics, album cover design, playing live in stadiums, and much more.

Perhaps it would be stretching it to say that music today wouldn't be what it is without The Beatles, but they provided the springboard for what followed and opened up new horizons for fellow artists.

Okay, so their early releases likes of She Loves You may sound a bit simplistic now, but you have place what they did in the context of the period - 1963 ( and indeed 1970 when they split) were very different times from 2019.

I rest my case m'lud.

ps I do agree with you regards Paul Weller

Agreed. I would also add that they had a global impact on the music and fashion industry opening the doors for other artists to follow. This has been said many times by other artists and fashion designers that the Beatles mad being British cool.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 13 Nov 19 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by djcpfc

Overrated

Suede

My son was in the same class as Mat Osman's brother (Richard Osman of Pointless fame) at Warden Park School in Cuckfield he said adding a Willo like irrelevancy to the proceedings

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 13 Nov 19 1.19pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by punksnotdead

Overrated Liam Gallagher , Paul Weller, The Beatles

I admire your subtle sense of humour

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 13 Nov 19 1.24pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

Overrated

U2
Bob Dylan (great song writer though)
Fatboy Slim


agreed.

also overrated :

Oasis
Blur
kaiser chiefs
bob marley
the sex pistols


Underrated :

Tom Waits
Lee Scratch Perry
The Fall
the ruts (as mentioned above)
Bauhaus

 


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Underrated : Cardiacs

The epitome of a marmite band. Adored by their fanbase and despised by everyone else (including all of the music press)

I've had one album since it's release in 1987 but recently bought the rest of their stuff. I now struggle to listen to anything else.

Here's a taster
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For anyone looking to make a purchase, ignore the silly prices being asked on Amazon and go for the below fan run website. A portion of the proceeds go to (frontman/creative genius) Tim Smiths healthcare. He tragically has been hospitalised for over a decade any will almost certainly not write or perform again.

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 13 Nov 19 2.07pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

It's hard to be objective as all the bands I don't like I also think are overrated and there are whole genres of music I don't get but others think are fantastic.

Overrated
Michael Jackson
U2
Bob Dylan (great song writer though)
Fatboy Slim


I didnít realise Fatboy Slim had ever been rated.

 

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deleted user Flag 13 Nov 19 2.13pm

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

overated: cold play ed sheeron and the jam

underated: Lee Hazelwood OMD the beat

OMD have still got it! I saw them live last year

 

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deleted user Flag 13 Nov 19 2.15pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

My son was in the same class as Mat Osman's brother (Richard Osman of Pointless fame) at Warden Park School in Cuckfield he said adding a Willo like irrelevancy to the proceedings

Uh oh, could this too turn into a Willo thread?

Edited by dollardays (13 Nov 2019 2.16pm)

 

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