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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Oct 20 2.28pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle

Silvertop made a point about Burnley and Palace being similar in terms of funding. Burnley have bought practically no one in the expensive part of the transfer window. Now the lower value section of the transfer window is here I believe Burnley will add to their squad wisely and the players they buy will slot in quickly. I hope we can match them but only with players that fit the system and bolster weak areas not with players that flatter in the Championship but may not cut the mustard in the higher leagues.

Looking at the respective spending over 4 seasons, 2016-17 to 2019-20, the 'Net Spend' of the two clubs has been almost identical, around £55 Mill.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 06 Oct 20 2.31pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Times have certainly changed and I had this discussion only last night.

Gone are the days when a manager or coach analysing the opposition attend games in all climes with a set of cards on which a football pitch is printed and they scribble the movement of players at set-pieces!

Yep now all you need is good internet connection and comfy armchair

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 06 Oct 20 2.32pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

That's very kind of you.Your kind sentiments are very much appreciated.
Glad to report that my hamstrings are in good working order!

Edited by Willo (06 Oct 2020 12.00pm)

Glad to hear it, Ďitís good to have you back and hope all is well in the Willodom

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Oct 20 2.43pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Glad to hear it, Ďitís good to have you back and hope all is well in the Willodom

Thank you very much.
All is well in the 'Willodom' ! Given my pessimism season-on-season perhaps it should be "WilloDOOM' !

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 06 Oct 20 3.08pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by kev64

What is really frustrating is, we were possibly in a position to invest in the club with the likes of Watkins and Benrahma but whoever runs the roost at the club wonít invest, and instead we spend money on loan moves, and so called Ďfree transfers (Meyer).,

Obviously Eze is the exception, but thatís £ freed up by finally paying for Tekkers , who along with CW (wherever he is) were given contract extensions to keep our inflated wage bill nice and high.

Why on earth we donít move Meyer, Tekkers and other fringe players on that drain resources and offer nothing is equally frustrating, those 2 players soak up what 10mill at year ...

Edited by kev64 (06 Oct 2020 2.03pm)

You do know that would have cost almost 50m for 2 championship players?

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 06 Oct 20 3.33pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

We don't seem to have any spaces in the squad, and can only offload players to Championship/lower league sides who are all broke.

1) Hennessy
2) Guaita
3) Henderson
4) Ward
5) PVA
6) Tomkins
7) Dann
Sakho
9) Cahill
10) Kelly
11) Mitchell
12) Milivojevic
13) Meyer
14) Kouyate
15) Townsend
17) Schlupp
1 McArther
19) McCarthy
20) Reidewald
21) Eze
22) Ayew
23) Zaha
24) Benteke
25) Wickham
26) Batshuayi
27) Woods
2 Inniss
29) Jach

Inniss, Woods, and Jack are all unlikely to make the 25 man squad. But that still leaves us one player over. Can't see Benrahma, Clyne, Welbeck, Wiltshire or anyone else joining for the moment.

Wickham and one of Kelly/Dann are the only others I can see droping down a division.

Sorry Jeagles but you've miscounted and jumped from no. 15 to 17. Also Mitchell doesn't count because he was under 21 as at 1st Jan 2020 (the cut-off date) Under 21s don't have to be included in the 25 man squad, so assuming the three you mention don't make the cut, we still have one place left for Clyne/Welbeck/Wilshere or whichever other old crock we might want to bring in (or exciting EFL player?!?).

The age limit also means that we can play Pierrick, Kirby, Banks etc. should we wish to.

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 06 Oct 20 3.36pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Olly Watkins slotted in quickly because he had one of our best midfielders, Grealish, working for him.

What can we offer an aspiring forward? Scraps.

We are, and have been since the days of Michael Hughes, Ben Watson and Barry Bannon crying out for a constructive midfielder.

Why didn't we go for Ruben Loftus Cheek who now seems to be on the move? We won't find another Jack Grealish but would Jack Wilshere be worth taking on as a 'pay as you play' signing ?

People are expecting Batshuayi to recapture his 1 in 3 games goal ability. He won't because he won't get the type pf ball that he (and Ayew) need.

It seems Plan B for subs is to bring on Benteke which is a waste of time because we are not crossing the ball.

As the manager will not persevere with Meyer or Reidewald it seems we will be pursuing the 0-0 tactics used against Chelsea. If that continues then relegation will be a distinct possibility.

 

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View MKGlazier's Profile MKGlazier Flag Milton Keynes 06 Oct 20 3.36pm Send a Private Message to MKGlazier Add MKGlazier as a friend

Just a thought if anyone thinks the transfer window is closed.... All the players we have signed (& Clyne), are based in England, sure we know that window open until Friday week??... You never know

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Oct 20 3.52pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by MKGlazier

Just a thought if anyone thinks the transfer window is closed.... All the players we have signed (& Clyne), are based in England, sure we know that window open until Friday week??... You never know

'Transfer Window 2' is open until 5pm on 16th October for domestic transfers.
PL clubs can trade with EFL clubs and below.
There are players in the EFL who are interesting PL clubs.

Edited by Willo (06 Oct 2020 3.52pm)

 

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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Thorney, Cambs 06 Oct 20 4.11pm Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Originally posted by spartakev2

You do know that would have cost almost 50m for 2 championship players?

Roughly the cost of one Tekkers. If we donít invest we will eventually fail .... without selling Wilf we are not in the market. AWB £ serviced debt, Sorloth we some how got £ back .. but we are running out of saleable stock so to speak ..

Tekkers . Zero resale
Sakho . Zero resale
Meyer. Zero resale
Jach. Zero resale
Wickham. Zero resale

The list goes on out of our 25 man squad who would we get more than 10 mill apart from Wilf in this market.


Edited by kev64 (06 Oct 2020 4.18pm)

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 06 Oct 20 5.06pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

We've gone Bats and Fulham have a Cheek,paying apparently,£150,000 a week :

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 06 Oct 20 5.19pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by kev64

Roughly the cost of one Tekkers. If we donít invest we will eventually fail .... without selling Wilf we are not in the market. AWB £ serviced debt, Sorloth we some how got £ back .. but we are running out of saleable stock so to speak ..

Tekkers . Zero resale
Sakho . Zero resale
Meyer. Zero resale
Jach. Zero resale
Wickham. Zero resale

The list goes on out of our 25 man squad who would we get more than 10 mill apart from Wilf in this market.


Edited by kev64 (06 Oct 2020 4.18pm)


A good number of our 1st team squad will be out of contract next summer, including some of our highest wage costers (I won't say 'earners' because few of them actually earn a fraction of what they are getting).

I can't see many of them having their contracts extended. of the five you've quoted I only see Meyer being offered anything (and I think you are unfair to suggest he has no resale value. He's still young and in the right set-up will perform).

The next transfer window isn't that far away (12 league games) so there'll still be basically half the season to go when it's over. By then we'll have a better picture of:
1. when crowds will be back and what capacity
2. how our team are placed with regard to survival
3. how our academy recruits are faring in the new set up
4. which youngsters may be able to step up to the plate before the end of the season
5. what we'll need in the way of new players

It will be interesting to see whether the club can identify young players in the EFL during the next 10 days who might make the grade.

It's not all doom and gloom just yet (but it may come to that, of course).

 

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