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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 14 Aug 20 5.27pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Six different ones now at about 1 billion per lot. If that’s all it is then it’s small potatoes. But I won’t be taking one until it’s fully certified safe and not shoved past the safety processes.
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| Lombardinho London 14 Aug 20 6.29pm |
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I have to say I'm quite encouraged by some of the posts on this thread in the last few days. Obviously, one or two of you mystifyingly still don't see anything sinister going on. But most of you admit now that there's been some fibbing going on. So my question for you to consider is this; Now that we know they've been lying to us, how difficult is it to take it a stage further and think perhaps they've been lying from the very beginning and the whole thing is one big charade?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Aug 20 6.46pm |
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The cashless or socialist or whatever reset I don’t believe in. In a China vs the world one I have a bit more time to listen to. The opportunity to turn the high street into housing I could see. But Amazon dominate online and don’t pay tax. If automation was soon I’d believe that, but it hasn’t surfaced. I think it’s really because it rose in China who took draconian action. The west followed, but can’t lockdown FULLY so feck it up royally. Edited by Rudi Hedman (14 Aug 2020 6.52pm)
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Teddy Eagle  14 Aug 20 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The cashless or socialist or whatever reset I don’t believe in. In a China vs the world one I have a bit more time to listen to. The opportunity to turn the high street into housing I could see. But Amazon dominate online and don’t pay tax. If automation was soon I’d believe that, but it hasn’t surfaced. I think it’s really because it rose in China who took draconian action. The west followed, but can’t lockdown FULLY so feck it up royally. Edited by Rudi Hedman (14 Aug 2020 6.52pm) The cashless theory is interesting in that Sweden is already virtually cash free.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Aug 20 7.00pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The cashless theory is interesting in that Sweden is already virtually cash free. I haven’t read through the logic of it tbh but I doubt I’d agree on the theory.
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cryrst  The garden of England 14 Aug 20 7.21pm |
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Originally posted by Lombardinho
I have to say I'm quite encouraged by some of the posts on this thread in the last few days. Obviously, one or two of you mystifyingly still don't see anything sinister going on. But most of you admit now that there's been some fibbing going on. So my question for you to consider is this; Now that we know they've been lying to us, how difficult is it to take it a stage further and think perhaps they've been lying from the very beginning and the whole thing is one big charade? Fibbing about what. All the information about the above is given to the government by others.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Aug 20 7.38pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Fibbing about what. All the information about the above is given to the government by others. There’s something not right with cherry picking one and one only indicator that suits and maintains the bad story and fear at the time, and then not reporting the falling and almost nothing to report hospitalisations and deaths but the amount of infections are being mentioned everywhere, even if it’s about 4 people in a workplace. There’s a lot that isn’t rational but the problem is the country is fvcking thick, unable to critically think and innumerate that none of this gets questioned or is allowed to by lefties and luvvies dominating the tv where it all begins.
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| Teddy Eagle 14 Aug 20 8.13pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I haven’t read through the logic of it tbh but I doubt I’d agree on the theory. I think the idea is that governments find cash expensive to produce and for businesses to manage and transport. Going down the conspiracy route is the element of tracking people via card transactions. No idea how feasible or likely this might be.
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| BlueJay UK 14 Aug 20 9.12pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Government spending billions buying up hundreds of millions of different vaccines that are obviously untested past the required levels of testing. It takes so long to mass roll-out million of doses that this was seen as the best strategy. Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
If that’s all it is then it’s small potatoes. But I won’t be taking one until it’s fully certified safe and not shoved past the safety processes.
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| Spiderman Horsham 14 Aug 20 9.12pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
No, I think we tend to accept that the scientists in general are usually more informed than us. It is with the poorly informed that we debate, and especially those that pretend to be well informed. The level of conspiracy theory and debunking of science for political reasons on this site and presumably within social media more generally is just unbelievable. Trump is such a great example of knowingly confusing the points by throwing out totally unfounded criticisms, just VERY LOUDLY. IMO you and WE do not debate as you are always right and make it quite clear that anyone that disagree have missed the point and are wrong. You and WE never pretend to be well informed, you are well informed even when discussing issues you may know less about than others.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Aug 20 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Exactly the kind of thing people social media say because it might not be for their unfit lifestyles or someone else they know when the choice would be to risk myself with an untested vaccine. Cheers though. Many fit people like me have said it was nothing terrible. If I didn’t take the late heart hole operation in mid December with 10 days notice I might personally be concerned but probably still physically doing exactly as I have been doing.
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| BlueJay UK 14 Aug 20 9.44pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Exactly the kind of thing people social media say because it might not be for their unfit lifestyles or someone else they know when the choice would be to risk myself with an untested vaccine. Cheers though. Many fit people like me have said it was nothing terrible. If I didn’t take the late heart hole operation in mid December with 10 days notice I might personally be concerned but probably still physically doing exactly as I have been doing. Social media is awash with anti vax nonsense as it happens, rather than any alternative. As I've clearly stated once tested and available, it's an option. You're not obliged to have it. It's a decision that many will have to make, because clearly if they wait too long they will likely get covid-19 anyway, and despite you declaring yourself mr universe and covid-19 is 'nothing terrible', the reality is that you have little idea how that would affect you either.
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