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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag Chatham 18 Oct 20 7.31am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Whilst we are discussing vaccines I am sure I have read somewhere that the Pharma companies working on the vaccines have been granted immunity from any comeback from side effects caused by the vaccine - cannot now find where I saw this so it might be a “conspiracy theory “..

Has anyone else seen this?

If any vaccine has been produced without 'chips' I'm sure they will have they're arses sued by HMG.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag Chatham 18 Oct 20 7.34am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

You can have side effects to any drug, so that would be correct imo. What's the point in trying to create the holy grail if your going to done for digging up the metal.
I reckon there will be checks upon checks on the ingredient lists. If that's what it's called.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Oct 20 7.34am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Whilst we are discussing vaccines I am sure I have read somewhere that the Pharma companies working on the vaccines have been granted immunity from any comeback from side effects caused by the vaccine - cannot now find where I saw this so it might be a “conspiracy theory “..

Has anyone else seen this?

It wouldn't surprise me and I think it is fair enough. They are being pushed to produce this vaccine asap and it still has to be signed off by NICE or whatever the appropriate agency is so unless they are falsifying records there will always be a risk that something goes wrong.

I was once told that even the most successful drugs are only effective in 50-70% of cases and that for the rest they either don't work or have side effects.

Edited by Badger11 (18 Oct 2020 7.34am)

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Oct 20 8.48am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You can have side effects to any drug, so that would be correct imo. What's the point in trying to create the holy grail if your going to done for digging up the metal.
I reckon there will be checks upon checks on the ingredient lists. If that's what it's called.

I saw that the pharma companies will be protected from law suits. I think it’ll be covering themselves to more than headaches as side effects. It’ll be rushed and they won’t know the side effects even just 6 months after. And what if pregnant women get problems? They’re in the rollout plans.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Oct 20 8.54am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

If the vulnerable want it and have it and we get back to normal then fine. Somehow I have my doubts and we’ll all end up needing to have a vaccine that is rushed by pharma companies immune from lawsuits if it goes wrong. And midwives will be vaccinating?

The Times:

‘ The NHS is preparing to introduce a coronavirus vaccine soon after Christmas. Trials have shown it will cut infections and save lives, Jonathan Van-Tam, the deputy chief medical officer, has privately revealed.

He told MPs last week that stage three trials of the vaccine created at Oxford University and being manufactured by AstraZeneca mean a mass rollout is on the horizon as early as December. Thousands of NHS staff are to undergo training to administer a vaccine before the end of the year.

The government changed the law this weekend to expand the number of health professionals able to inoculate the public. The regulations will enable pharmacists, dentists, midwives and paramedics to administer jabs.‘

Edited by Rudi Hedman (18 Oct 2020 8.56am)

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Oct 20 8.57am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Patrick Vallance will be pleased ££££££££££££££

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Oct 20 9.15am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

And talking of vaccines I can't even get a flu jab despite the government saying there is no shortage.

Now granted I am under 65 and not vulnerable but each year I am happy to pay for mine only this year I have been told by Boots, Superdrug and my local chemist the earliest I can get it is January. Why the shortage the government promised us that this wouldn't happen and yet it is worse this year then ever.

I expect the NHS to have priority but these are private companies why haven't they ordered enough somebody has screwed up.

At this rate I will be lucky to get the Covid vaccine this time next year.

Maybe you shouldn’t worry. Somehow this season flu has been eradicated worldwide according to WHO charts and Covid is on the rise. So suddenly measures have worked for flu but not for covid. The spreadsheet is your friend, Badger.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Oct 20 10.12am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

All we need is Starmer or 2-3 weeks lockdown to make this possible.

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 18 Oct 20 10.18am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

All we need is Starmer or 2-3 weeks lockdown to make this possible.

Police State here we come.

Some advice, buy a cheap phone and give them that number. Always leave it on and always leave it at home.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 18 Oct 20 10.23am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Once the sanctity of doctor patient confidentiality is gone we lose a big part of our democracy. Slowly but surely our rights are being eaten away. They will try and make matters such as this the norm and to do what? So they can find someone who is completely healthy and prevent them from leaving their home, I suppose with a hefty fine thrown in. Troubling times ahead.

Edited by Eaglecoops (18 Oct 2020 10.25am)

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 18 Oct 20 10.29am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Maybe you shouldn’t worry. Somehow this season flu has been eradicated worldwide according to WHO charts and Covid is on the rise. So suddenly measures have worked for flu but not for covid. The spreadsheet is your friend, Badger.

The worrying outcome of that discovery is that they now know how to eradicate flu which gives them the perfect excuse to do this forever! Tongue in cheek as was yours but food for thought nonetheless.

 

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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 18 Oct 20 8.32pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Whilst we are discussing vaccines I am sure I have read somewhere that the Pharma companies working on the vaccines have been granted immunity from any comeback from side effects caused by the vaccine - cannot now find where I saw this so it might be a “conspiracy theory “..

Has anyone else seen this?

Yes.

Ever since Ronald Reagan passed an act in 1986, pharmaceutical companies could no longer be sued.

That's why now they're all so unimaginably rich and powerful.

 

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