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View Sansbup's Profile Sansbup Flag Normandy 18 Feb 20 10.56pm Send a Private Message to Sansbup Add Sansbup as a friend

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Millwall are planning to expand the Den to 34,000 capacity to meet their 'Premier League requirements'.

If we don't a) get the main stand redeveloped and b) stay up, then South London may no longer be 'ours'....

 

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Online Flag Hastings 18 Feb 20 11.19pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

we can't be complacent but Millwall just have a hard core and very little fair weather support whereas we'd get 30k a week easily if we expanded to Millwall's planned capacity - improving the stadium is crucial - the club can't stand still or they'll go backwards fast

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Feb 20 11.39pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Since Millwall were promoted to the Championship at the end of the 2016-17 season they haven't really attracted large crowds :

2017-18 Average 13,368 22nd in the Championship
2018-19 Average 13,624 20th in the Championship
2019-20 Average 13,901 18th in the Championship.

I am not convinced that they would fill or nearly fill a 34,000 stadium on a regular basis if they got promoted to the PL.Suspect they would do against the likes of W.Ham.

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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 19 Feb 20 6.02am Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Would be full of tourists if they expanded that much and got promoted, would create a toxic atmosphere and completely change the club putting off most of their real fans, like it has at West Ham.
The idea of re doing the den is to fit in with the regeneration of the area , making the ground double the capacity would mean more parking etc and that would mean less new properties/money.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 19 Feb 20 6.11am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The Millwall expansion to 34,000 sounds more like 'pie in the sky' to me.

Aspirations being turned into articles by journalists looking for clicks.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Feb 20 6.30am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I am not convinced that they would fill or nearly fill a 34,000 stadium on a regular basis if they got promoted to the PL.

Perhaps Millwall's idea is to share their ground with another South London Club

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Feb 20 7.51am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The Millwall expansion to 34,000 sounds more like 'pie in the sky' to me.

Aspirations being turned into articles by journalists looking for clicks.

Actually think Westfield and their promise to build affordable housing.

I discussed this with my Millwall mates on Monday they do not believe it will ever happen. This is all about profit err sorry I mean regenerating the local area around the stadium.

The club owners have finally seen off the rival bidders and now have a clear run for a housing development the promise of a rebuilt stadium is a PR stunt for the supporters with the usual caveats e.g. it will never happen unless Millwall are in the PL and sold out.

Nothing to see here folks.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 19 Feb 20 8.31am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Perhaps Millwall's idea is to share their ground with another South London Club

Dulwich Hamlet?

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 19 Feb 20 10.22am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

If they beat us to enlargement completion there would be the opportunity of Palace matches being played there while Selhurst Park is transformed. However, non of us know whether they are looking north, and the possibility of providing an intimate East London stadium for the WHFC refugees. .

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Feb 20 10.43am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by HeathMan

If they beat us to enlargement completion there would be the opportunity of Palace matches being played there while Selhurst Park is transformed. However, non of us know whether they are looking north, and the possibility of providing an intimate East London stadium for the WHFC refugees. .

The plans that were revealed in a fanfare, in the final analysis, only amounted to a replacement for the decrepit old stand, alhough the proposed new structure looked impressive and is much needed.

All other parts of the ground including the archaic 'Arthur Wait' with it's dastardly facilities are not included in any upgrade so I would suggest that the proposed new stand would not equate to a major transformation of Selhurst Park although of course it would be an improvement and increase the corporate facilities with the extra revenues they bring.

 

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Originally posted by Willo

The plans that were revealed in a fanfare, in the final analysis, only amounted to a replacement for the decrepit old stand, alhough the proposed new structure looked impressive and is much needed.

All other parts of the ground including the archaic 'Arthur Wait' with it's dastardly facilities are not included in any upgrade so I would suggest that the proposed new stand would not equate to a major transformation of Selhurst Park although of course it would be an improvement and increase the corporate facilities with the extra revenues they bring.

Plus it seems less and less likely to ever actually happen.

 


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Originally posted by Willo

The plans that were revealed in a fanfare, in the final analysis, only amounted to a replacement for the decrepit old stand, alhough the proposed new structure looked impressive and is much needed.

All other parts of the ground including the archaic 'Arthur Wait' with it's dastardly facilities are not included in any upgrade so I would suggest that the proposed new stand would not equate to a major transformation of Selhurst Park although of course it would be an improvement and increase the corporate facilities with the extra revenues they bring.

disagree - the new stand would be a transformation - you'd have three sides of the ground up to date with a 60s hangover - and the AW is far less of an eye sore than the old stand though the facilities are inferior, it's a race against time whether we rebuild or it falls apart - atm two main stands are out of date and the other is sainsburied.

 

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