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View Beanyboysmd's Profile Beanyboysmd Flag 22 Feb 20 5.17pm Send a Private Message to Beanyboysmd Add Beanyboysmd as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Despite all the censcorship/banning there are still some great right wing political/culture channels on YouTube. Here are a few of my favourites for the like minded:

Black Pigeon Speaks (for geo-politics, culture and social commentary)
The Iconoclast (who is basically a carbon coby of my internal monologue)
The Academic Agent (very entertaining "cigar streams" )
Voltaires Ghost (for withering and whitty social comment)
Atheism is Unstoppable (US "culture" shredded)
Black Pilled (self explanitory and should come with a health warning - only advised if you have very good mental health as it cannot be unwatched)
Daughter of Albion - I would recommend anyone watch the following as a compelling argument for nationalism:

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Edited by W12 (20 Feb 2020 7.38am)

So politically I am polar opposite but 'atheism is unstoppable'is quite good from the couple ive seen.
Ine thing I wanted to pick up on is the 'censorship of the right wing' bit, as both sides have very valid cases to feel that way...if your video has Gay, lesbian, trans, lgbt, lgbtq, coming out' it is automatically demonized and effectively buried in the algorithm. They are the words I can think of off the top of my head but there are a lot of examples. Youtube wants to drive out 'controversy' not a specific ideology. They have done the same with some proper ridiculous stuff as well, they did it with words like 'scottish'!
Most of the channels they have outright banned have just flatout broken terms of service, im not a fan of deplatforming people but a few cases you have to say fair play...

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 Feb 20 5.25pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

If social media companies curate their content then that is editing and so in effect makes them a publisher and subject to the laws therein.

If they are just a platform then they are no different to the telephone lines and they should not be policing content, just as the telephone lines are not policed....not officially anyway.

All these silicon valley companies benefited at their start by being classified as platforms and initially that's how they ran their businesses.

They no longer deserve that categorization, simply because it is no longer true.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2020 5.27pm)

 

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View Beanyboysmd's Profile Beanyboysmd Flag 22 Feb 20 6.23pm Send a Private Message to Beanyboysmd Add Beanyboysmd as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If social media companies curate their content then that is editing and so in effect makes them a publisher and subject to the laws therein.

If they are just a platform then they are no different to the telephone lines and they should not be policing content, just as the telephone lines are not policed....not officially anyway.

All these silicon valley companies benefited at their start by being classified as platforms and initially that's how they ran their businesses.

They no longer deserve that categorization, simply because it is no longer true.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2020 5.27pm)

Youtube have always benefited from the best of both worlds. They claim impartiality but that has never been true. I have never cared that much about the political side of thier impartiality but they have always promoted what they want and what they want is high views and low controversy so they push it hard. High controversy stuff gets buried. There is a massive legal case right now with the lgbtq community getting their videos buried and thanks to an amazing community testing the algorithm, it looks like they might win. If they do then youtube will have to implement some massive reforms that ironically will benefit ideology channels...

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 Feb 20 6.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

Youtube have always benefited from the best of both worlds. They claim impartiality but that has never been true. I have never cared that much about the political side of thier impartiality but they have always promoted what they want and what they want is high views and low controversy so they push it hard. High controversy stuff gets buried. There is a massive legal case right now with the lgbtq community getting their videos buried and thanks to an amazing community testing the algorithm, it looks like they might win. If they do then youtube will have to implement some massive reforms that ironically will benefit ideology channels...

That would be a positive.

Google want to turn Youtube into some kind of Netflick's clone. They want to push all the political and controversial cultural stuff off.

If this alphabet group win then I congratulate them as they shouldn't have to operate under absurd restraints when no one is compelled in their videos or forced to watch them. I would hope that their activists also hold a similar attitude towards all identity content.

Unfortunately I think we both know how this is going to go though.....there is going to be a form of digital segregation at least in the short term.

 

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View Beanyboysmd's Profile Beanyboysmd Flag 22 Feb 20 9.04pm Send a Private Message to Beanyboysmd Add Beanyboysmd as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That would be a positive.

Google want to turn Youtube into some kind of Netflick's clone. They want to push all the political and controversial cultural stuff off.

If this alphabet group win then I congratulate them as they shouldn't have to operate under absurd restraints when no one is compelled in their videos or forced to watch them. I would hope that their activists also hold a similar attitude towards all identity content.

Unfortunately I think we both know how this is going to go though.....there is going to be a form of digital segregation at least in the short term.

I agree but I really hope you are wrong about digital segregation...that usually leads to echo chambers and ignorance at best, political extremism at worst...
But unfortunatly, its probably inevitable.

The netflicks comparison is spot on by the way, everything they do is to steer them in that direction and its failing horribly. Youtubes CEO has done a terrible job since being in charge and every conceivable type of youtuber hates what she has done with it...

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 Feb 20 11.41pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

I agree but I really hope you are wrong about digital segregation...that usually leads to echo chambers and ignorance at best, political extremism at worst...
But unfortunatly, its probably inevitable.

The netflicks comparison is spot on by the way, everything they do is to steer them in that direction and its failing horribly. Youtubes CEO has done a terrible job since being in charge and every conceivable type of youtuber hates what she has done with it...

Facebook's CEO Zuckerberg recently said that he wants to move away from censorship and I can only hope that he follows through on that instead of it being meaningless platitudes.

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 22 Feb 20 11.57pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

I assume the term ‘echo chamber(s)’ applies just as much to the right as as it does to the left.

Can’t be doing with double standards now can we.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (22 Feb 2020 11.58pm)

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 22 Feb 20 11.58pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

I assume the term ‘echo chamber(s)’ applies just as much to the right as it does to the left.

Can’t be doing with double standards now can we.

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Feb 20 12.23am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I assume the term ‘echo chamber(s)’ applies just as much to the right as as it does to the left.

Can’t be doing with double standards now can we.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (22 Feb 2020 11.58pm)

I agree.

The point should be made of course that echo chambers aren't a new or digital phenomenon it's just that the Internet enables echo chambers far more easily than before.

The movement by the social media giants to censor in recent years has only accelerated and heightened echo chambers and essentially there is no real mediation between significantly different worldviews.

I'd imagine if this exchange was a video streaming conversation that you'd probably not wish to discuss even this milk toast topic due to fear of association from activists.

Ally all this to identity politics as the emerging movements on both wings (with only the non white flavour being supported by institutions) the reality of digital segregation ....as with house price segregation just seems an inevitable consequence.

I can tell you that the dissident right are just waiting for their Soros.....When that happens, things will get interesting. It's unfortunate that I'm an old git because that's an exciting time....Not a nice time or even perhaps not successful....but at least a time more contested than now.

It will be Isandlwana or it will be Rorke's drift....but that's when the die is cast.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Feb 2020 1.58pm)

 

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 28 Feb 20 9.12pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

I would urge people to get on Telegram if they are not already

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 29 Feb 20 6.21am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Youtube Channels for those on the right side

The right side of what I ask?

For those of a certain age the best thing on YouTube isn't political but Daryl's House which is a series of jam sessions of musicians at the studio in Daryl Hall's house.

Take a break from bloody politics and watch some episodes of Daryl's House instead

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 29 Feb 20 10.42am Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Youtube Channels for those on the right side

The right side of what I ask?

For those of a certain age the best thing on YouTube isn't political but Daryl's House which is a series of jam sessions of musicians at the studio in Daryl Hall's house.

Take a break from bloody politics and watch some episodes of Daryl's House instead

Seconded. Top class musicianship.

 

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