You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Free Speech Union
June 3 2020 11.55pm

Free Speech Union

Previous Topic | Next Topic


Page 5 of 6 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 >

 

View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Feb 20 10.56am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't know whether anyone has ever calculated the statistical probable time it would take for a monkey typing the complete works of Shakespeare but it would be an interesting exercise. My instinct suggests it would exceed the estimated 4 billion years before the earth dies. Although I guess by then our evolved successors will be living elsewhere. Whether they take monkeys with them, or if they still exist, are other matters.

Nevertheless I expect that Brexit being reversed will happen rather earlier than that as will such things as globalisation, Trump's demise etc etc.

Just because things don't always work in the best way you would like them to doesn't mean they won't. It just means you need to have some patience and belief.

Both exist in ample measure among those determined to reverse the current trend towards populism, and it's threat to consensus government, which is doing so much damage in the western world.

IF over the next 5 years, with or without a deal, the economy does okay then Brexit for the foreseeable future is dead.

I can only see 2 possible ways that Brexit is an issue at the next GE:

1) Our economy tanks whilst the EU surges ahead.
2) The EU does a major U turn and offers us the type of flexible deal that Cameron wanted and Mrs Merkel refused.

Apart from that electorally the issue is dead, the country doesn't have the stomach for another bruising battle. Of course there will be some who will campaign for it like abortion but it will be another one of those issues that TV and radio will have heated discussions over but nobody else cares when it comes to voting.

Varakcer most have been shocked that all his EU politicking came to nothing as the Irish voters were only concerned with the economy and housing.

 


One more point

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Feb 20 2.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

IF over the next 5 years, with or without a deal, the economy does okay then Brexit for the foreseeable future is dead.

I can only see 2 possible ways that Brexit is an issue at the next GE:

1) Our economy tanks whilst the EU surges ahead.
2) The EU does a major U turn and offers us the type of flexible deal that Cameron wanted and Mrs Merkel refused.

Apart from that electorally the issue is dead, the country doesn't have the stomach for another bruising battle. Of course there will be some who will campaign for it like abortion but it will be another one of those issues that TV and radio will have heated discussions over but nobody else cares when it comes to voting.

Varakcer
most have been shocked that all his EU politicking came to nothing as the Irish voters were only concerned with the economy and housing.

He cashed all his chips with the EU and they shafted him....well his country anyway.

I look forward to the Irish population realising that increased globalism is coming to their shores now the UK has left the UK.....Now they will be the soft touch.

I can see an anti EU movement gathering strength there.

Varakcer will no doubt eventually end up in the commission.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Feb 2020 2.04pm)

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Feb 20 2.30pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

He cashed all his chips with the EU and they shafted him....well his country anyway.

I look forward to the Irish population realising that increased globalism is coming to their shores now the UK has left the UK.....Now they will be the soft touch.

I can see an anti EU movement gathering strength there.

Varakcer will no doubt eventually end up in the commission.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Feb 2020 2.04pm)

Along side Bercow.

 


One more point

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 23 Feb 20 3.57pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

He cashed all his chips with the EU and they shafted him....well his country anyway.

I look forward to the Irish population realising that increased globalism is coming to their shores now the UK has left the UK.....Now they will be the soft touch.

I can see an anti EU movement gathering strength there.

Varakcer will no doubt eventually end up in the commission.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Feb 2020 2.04pm)

Ireland is one of the most pro-EU countries, and the percentage of those wanting to leave has gone down.

[Link]

Just 4% of people there said immigration was their biggest concern in the election and anti-immigration candidates completely washed out.

[Link]

But hey, youíre always right, arenít you.

 


Tw@tter:

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Feb 20 4.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Ireland is one of the most pro-EU countries, and the percentage of those wanting to leave has gone down.

[Link]

Just 4% of people there said immigration was their biggest concern in the election and anti-immigration candidates completely washed out.

[Link]

But hey, youíre always right, arenít you.


?

What is it with you and not getting things right?

I wrote, 'I can see an anti EU movement gathering strength there.'

So how on earth does your brain interpret that as me saying that 'the EU isn't popular in Ireland'..that isn't what I said. On the contrary due to early economic funds it is popular, they just haven't had much of the negatives of globalism yet........I even wrote afterwards that I was, 'looking forward to the Irish population realising'

I have Northern Irish family and Irish connections I guess I just know far more about it than an Essex soy boy. Seems you are becoming more bitter and desperate as we go along.

It's almost now at the stage where you're kind of seeing what you want to see......Then again, to be fair, that's kind of what I should expect with a lefty of your type. You have already stated an outright lie about me on the thread so what's another inaccurate statement from you.


Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Feb 2020 5.01pm)

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 23 Feb 20 7.15pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Youíve offered a prediction on something and recent evidence suggests the trends are moving in the other direction. And that immigration in Ireland is not a big issue with the electorate therefore what you have said is unlikely. And the effects of globalisation catching up with Ireland? Itís hardly a million miles behind the U.K. is it? Your ego just canít handle people challenging you and suggesting that you may be wrong.

 


Tw@tter:

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Feb 20 7.40pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Youíve offered a prediction on something and recent evidence suggests the trends are moving in the other direction. And that immigration in Ireland is not a big issue with the electorate therefore what you have said is unlikely. And the effects of globalisation catching up with Ireland? Itís hardly a million miles behind the U.K. is it? Your ego just canít handle people challenging you and suggesting that you may be wrong.

Yes, I made a prediction and that's how I see it going.

What you did was create a strawman argument that I didn't make to waffle on about Irish politics that I already know about.

As for your suggestion that 'immigration in Ireland is not a big issue'. Well genius, the white percentage in Ireland measured in 2016 was 94.3%....So yes, the comparison to England is very different.

[Link]

Yeah....I can kind of see why immigration isn't going to be an issue yet and I can see how that's going to change with Brexit and that was what my post was about.

Next time try to accurately reflect someone's points when you reply to them.....If you have any self regard for honesty left that is.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Feb 2020 7.48pm)

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 23 Feb 20 7.45pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

This is what the free speech crusade always looks like in reality: angry men throwing around insults then getting really offended when people tell them to shut up.

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 23 Feb 20 7.46pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Youíve offered a prediction on something and recent evidence suggests the trends are moving in the other direction. And that immigration in Ireland is not a big issue with the electorate therefore what you have said is unlikely. And the effects of globalisation catching up with Ireland? Itís hardly a million miles behind the U.K. is it? Your ego just canít handle people challenging you and suggesting that you may be wrong.

Varadkar got shafted in the last election cos of housing. All the polls pointed to a rage from homeless irish at Varadkar's policy. So he ended up the worst performing Taoiseach in his own constituency ( in all of the last 100 years). Another Corbyn type loser.

Follow the link and ask yourself why the newspaper has shut the comments section in the article. Do try to keep up petal.

[Link]

Edited by PalazioVecchio (23 Feb 2020 7.48pm)

 


from the Etihad, Emirates, Molyneux, London Stadium, turf moor & Anfield to Old Trafford.....Raptors on the Road

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Feb 20 7.47pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

This is what the free speech crusade always looks like in reality: angry men throwing around insults then getting really offended when people tell them to shut up.

Oh look, another liar.....it must be contagion.

No one is bothered about being told to shut up....that's opinion and valid.

So shut up.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 8.04pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

IF over the next 5 years, with or without a deal, the economy does okay then Brexit for the foreseeable future is dead.

I can only see 2 possible ways that Brexit is an issue at the next GE:

1) Our economy tanks whilst the EU surges ahead.
2) The EU does a major U turn and offers us the type of flexible deal that Cameron wanted and Mrs Merkel refused.

Apart from that electorally the issue is dead, the country doesn't have the stomach for another bruising battle. Of course there will be some who will campaign for it like abortion but it will be another one of those issues that TV and radio will have heated discussions over but nobody else cares when it comes to voting.

Varakcer most have been shocked that all his EU politicking came to nothing as the Irish voters were only concerned with the economy and housing.

With even some advocates of Brexit accepting that it could take 30 years for us to get back to where we were I suspect the golden glow that others are now claiming to see is quite likely to fade fast.

My own view is that your second option is actually quite likely as the EU has obviously been shaken by Brexit and may well offer us an olive branch of some kind of associate membership in a few years.

Not whilst this government is in power though and who is capable of forming another is as yet unknown. There is all to play for.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 23 Feb 20 8.15pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

This is what the free speech crusade always looks like in reality: angry men throwing around insults then getting really offended when people tell them to shut up.

Haha. These Ďfree speechí champions always seem to get angry very quickly when someone says something they donít like donít they?

 


Tw@tter:

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply

 

Page 5 of 6 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 >

Previous Topic | Next Topic

You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Free Speech Union