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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 20 11.07am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

If you're being serious, I think there'd be out rage if government paid players over a million a year.

The club and players should agree a cut something like a ceiling of £500K pa for everyone.

No cuts for the plebs earning normal money.

A pay ceiling of £500k per annum? I canít wait to see players take a 90% or 95% pay cut.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 20 12.41pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

I like andros and I kind of see his point that they see the fuller picture of clubs finances and what they do with regards to otherís pay. However, I think they just donít get it reading this...

ĎIf the players end up agreeing to a pay cut or deferral and a few days later the PFA find out that these clubs can continue to pay non-playing staff and are choosing not to, then who benefits?

ďThe NHS are not benefiting, these heroes are not benefiting. If the clubs can continue to pay them and are choosing not to then it is only those clubs that are benefiting.

ďThe PFA is doing its job, they are making sure that these clubs can continue to pay non-playing staff before any decision is made.Ē

I donít think they really understand that there is now going to be a finite amount of money and not different pots of money so their salary is guaranteed. My view is they either do it for the good of the club and game as a whole or theyíll look like what people are ready to accuse them of or Matt Hancock has implied. They need to get a move on.

Unless the players ARE saying that they donít want to take this pay cut and for the clubs to furlough the non playing staff so effectively take the government handout. But thatís a complex part because if they are furloughed then thereís more money for players and the government is where the decision should be made to not effectively pay clubs to furlough non playing staff. Messy one, and when you have people like Mike Ashley furloughing staff asap you can see the problem. Iím surprised with Norwich furloughing asap though.

If players donít do the decent thing I think I may walk away if loads of others promise to do the same. Itíll probably be just Liverpool and Man Utd being full like the old days.

The clubs, players and government need to come together to a satisfactory agreement.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (03 Apr 2020 1.32pm)

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I like andros and I kind of see his point that they see the fuller picture of clubs finances and what they do with regards to otherís pay. However, I think they just donít get it reading this...

ĎIf the players end up agreeing to a pay cut or deferral and a few days later the PFA find out that these clubs can continue to pay non-playing staff and are choosing not to, then who benefits?

ďThe NHS are not benefiting, these heroes are not benefiting. If the clubs can continue to pay them and are choosing not to then it is only those clubs that are benefiting.

ďThe PFA is doing its job, they are making sure that these clubs can continue to pay non-playing staff before any decision is made.Ē

I donít think they really understand that there is now going to be a finite amount of money and not different pots of money so their salary is guaranteed. My view is they either do it for the good of the club and game as a whole or theyíll look like what people are ready to accuse them of or Matt Hancock has implied. They need to get a move on.

Unless the players ARE saying that they donít want to take this pay cut and for the clubs to furlough the non playing staff so effectively take the government handout. But thatís a complex part because if they are furloughed then thereís more money for players and the government is where the decision should be made to not effectively pay clubs to furlough non playing staff. Messy one, and when you have people like Mike Ashley furloughing staff asap you can see the problem. Iím surprised with Norwich furloughing asap though.

If players donít do the decent thing I think I may walk away if loads of others promise to do the same. Itíll probably be just Liverpool and Man Utd being full like the old days.

The clubs, players and government need to come together to a satisfactory agreement.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (03 Apr 2020 1.32pm)

I get some of his points and some individuals are making some efforts but it's simply not enough. The situation has been handled appallingly and the fact it's taken this long for a statement from the PFA is frankly embarrassing. Gordon Taylor not doing too much to earn his 2m a year salary. Footballers have lost all touch with reality if they think they'll get any sympathy with the general public on this.

Edited by samprior (03 Apr 2020 1.38pm)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Apr 20 2.01pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I suspect that if staff members, who perhaps do not earn significant sums, are furloughed on 80% and see footballers at home collecting large sums this could well 'Stick in their throats'.

This situation clearly does NOT sit well with the general public and some might argue that it does not help the image of the game in this country.

Edited by Willo (03 Apr 2020 2.02pm)

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 20 2.26pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I suspect that if staff members, who perhaps do not earn significant sums, are furloughed on 80% and see footballers at home collecting large sums this could well 'Stick in their throats'.

This situation clearly does NOT sit well with the general public and some might argue that it does not help the image of the game in this country.

Edited by Willo (03 Apr 2020 2.02pm)

The priorities really should be the non-playing staff and keeping the clubs afloat. Maximising the playersí wages (declared profit which is how they do it)

Playersí opinions will be based on the short term. Herein lies a problem.

 


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Originally posted by samprior

I get some of his points and some individuals are making some efforts but it's simply not enough. The situation has been handled appallingly and the fact it's taken this long for a statement from the PFA is frankly embarrassing. Gordon Taylor not doing too much to earn his 2m a year salary. Footballers have lost all touch with reality if they think they'll get any sympathy with the general public on this.

Edited by samprior (03 Apr 2020 1.38pm)

Iíve always considered Gordon Taylor as a wet lettuce. He should be bringing the PFA, clubs and government together if their aim is to:

Make sure clubs donít take advantage of govt money by forcing non playing employees to be on furlough schemes.

Not just maximise their wages after this.

Look after the clubs.

Iím not sure players realise how many will stop paying £1,000 to £1,200 to even more for a season ticket or two plus concession tickets for kids before any bad feeling. That might not be a significant enough hit to prem clubs but thereís also the sky cancellations.

My cynicism predicts theyíre trying to stall for time to see how long this lockdown is for and to what extent after the main lockdown. I noticed Leeds Utd players deferred wages and didnít take a pay cut.

The clubs are all meeting over video and club captains are talking amongst each other. Talk of players donating to the nhs which is great, but they shouldnít do that instead of doing their bit to keep the clubs from going down and the nhs is the governmentís responsibility.

 


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Originally posted by Willo

This situation clearly does NOT sit well with the general public and some might argue that it does not help the image of the game in this country.

Edited by Willo (03 Apr 2020 2.02pm)

You're right, but do the football millionaires need to care? There have been isolated examples of admirable behaviour, but most of them are looking after number one, and when this is all over, they'll still be earning vast salaries, and we will again be pouring into the grounds, cheering them on, and eagerly hoping for multi-million pound new player signings. It's hard not to be cynical.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 20 3.43pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

I think I just heard theyíre talking about a 30% DEFERRED wage cut.

Dear oh dear.

 


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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 03 Apr 20 4.32pm Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

I'm not suggesting this as something that would happen, but is there a reason why the players could not be put on furlough too?

They technically can't work and are employees of the club.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 03 Apr 20 5.24pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

I fully agree, why don't all the club's come together and furlough all players, it's not like the players can complain or go and get work else where .
Having said that Mike Ashley would have already done this if it was the case so there has to be a reason why not

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