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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 15 Jun 22 8.08am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Grenfell is story no 3 on the BBC news site.
What for I donít know as itís all still in the courts no further than pre covid.
I reckon there is a big story about to be buried and nothing to do with grenfell.
Watch this space I guess !

Long gone are real investigative journalists, like Roger Cook (at grass roots level). Had a lot of time and respect for Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC, but seems she was 'promoted out of the way' by people higher up.

No one will be prosecuted for Grenfell. Any formal investigation will fail to find anyone, and no (BBC) journalists will bother taking this up, because if they find a story, then their career will be terminated.

 


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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Long gone are real investigative journalists, like Roger Cook (at grass roots level). Had a lot of time and respect for Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC, but seems she was 'promoted out of the way' by people higher up.

No one will be prosecuted for Grenfell. Any formal investigation will fail to find anyone, and no (BBC) journalists will bother taking this up, because if they find a story, then their career will be terminated.

John Pilger is still doing good work and there are other good journalists on the left like Glen Greenwald that are trying to hold the powerful to account but very few in the mainstream.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 15 Jun 22 12.29pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Long gone are real investigative journalists, like Roger Cook (at grass roots level). Had a lot of time and respect for Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC, but seems she was 'promoted out of the way' by people higher up.

No one will be prosecuted for Grenfell. Any formal investigation will fail to find anyone, and no (BBC) journalists will bother taking this up, because if they find a story, then their career will be terminated.

What a titan Roger Cook was. Principled rather than partisan in either direction, and unafraid where others feared to tread. I always liked the description of him as being a cross between "Meatloaf and the Equaliser" .

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 15 Jun 22 5.13pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Long gone are real investigative journalists, like Roger Cook (at grass roots level). Had a lot of time and respect for Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC, but seems she was 'promoted out of the way' by people higher up.

No one will be prosecuted for Grenfell. Any formal investigation will fail to find anyone, and no (BBC) journalists will bother taking this up, because if they find a story, then their career will be terminated.

They will be IF they are guilty.
What cannot happen is slinging people in jail to appease the public and families.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 15 Jun 22 5.49pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

They will be IF they are guilty.

What cannot happen is slinging people in jail to appease the public and families.

I think you're partly right, in that anyone who could end up in jail due to this is likely not key to what panned out. And those who did actually make the decisions that led to this can likely claim to be far enough removed from it all that they won't ever be held to account anyway. Multiple crap decisions to cut corners and save money, that put people at significant risk in the process.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 15 Jun 22 6.03pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Grenfell. Ultimately someone/committee gave the go-ahead for the cladding in the knowledge it didn't meet standard. Those involved have had plenty of time to muddy the waters and construct a suitably vague chain of events.
Jimmy Savile. Who knew ? No-one, apparently. Jonathan King ? I wasn't here when he touched kids.

BBC journalism is just too much part of the establishment to be any good at investigating.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (15 Jun 2022 6.10pm)

 


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Posted this on the Ukraine thread but jeeze. Come on man?!

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 15 Jun 22 7.34pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I think you're partly right, in that anyone who could end up in jail due to this is likely not key to what panned out. And those who did actually make the decisions that led to this can likely claim to be far enough removed from it all that they won't ever be held to account anyway. Multiple crap decisions to cut corners and save money, that put people at significant risk in the process.

I think the cladding was suitable for the regulations in place at the time.
Are we not constantly reading from some how hmg wasted money and spent unwisely on covid. We donít know if it was money well spent. Now it appears the council in charge of K and C finances should have doubled the spend on grenfell to fit different (safer) cladding. We now know it would have been money well spent!
Hindsight is wonderful.
Where and how did the fire start and how long did it take to raise the alarm and if too long why?
You wonít find this info; even within a multi million pound investigation and ongoing court case. Even the most basic car crash has more detail. The cynic in me feels there may be a bit of a cover up for that info?!?.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 16 Jun 22 7.40pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

If nothing else thereís a sort on there headline picture atm

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Jun 22 7.42am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

BBC training on Trans issues not impartial.

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When is the BBC going to learn if you invite activists to give your staff training it's hardly likely to be impartial.

You wouldn't ask the SNP to state the case for the Union or independence?

It does beg the question, the BBC has hundreds of researchers on the payroll as they saying they are incapable of researching this issue and providing training material that is impartial?

Why do they need Stonewall and now this new body? How much are they spending on external training?

Isn't this an sneaky way of providing funding for your alphabet soup mates?

Edited by Badger11 (17 Jun 2022 7.44am)

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 22 Jun 22 7.36pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Anyone else noticed on BBC, the advert for next week's Wimbledon - all women, praising their achievements, a poster showing 'we fought for equal pay' and the final punchline "We know our place"

Hopefully Cucking Funt will be along soon to mention kitchens


But what about the men? Their games are harder, faster & longer!

 


A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jun 22 9.11pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Anyone else noticed on BBC, the advert for next week's Wimbledon - all women, praising their achievements, a poster showing 'we fought for equal pay' and the final punchline "We know our place"

Hopefully Cucking Funt will be along soon to mention kitchens


But what about the men? Their games are harder, faster & longer!

Never heard it called 'games' before. Something tells me you'll be keeping an eye on the tennis, or the ball.

 


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Red and Blue Army!

He decked a bin dipper - respect.

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