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View Cpfc1861's Profile Cpfc1861 Flag dagenham 30 Jun 20 5.01pm Send a Private Message to Cpfc1861 Add Cpfc1861 as a friend

Here we go.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 30 Jun 20 6.01pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Finally, a footballer has seen this for what it is...

Edited by Penge Eagle (29 Jun 2020 11.30pm)

He's right of course.

Football never needed this in the first place. Football is a case of merit earns you a place on the team.

Outside of that it's just far left destructive sentiment.

 

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View Cpfc1861's Profile Cpfc1861 Flag dagenham 30 Jun 20 7.52pm Send a Private Message to Cpfc1861 Add Cpfc1861 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

He's right of course.

Football never needed this in the first place. Football is a case of merit earns you a place on the team.

Outside of that it's just far left destructive sentiment.

see le tissier basically confirm they're made to wear it.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jun 20 8.04pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

see le tissier basically confirm they're made to wear it.

Has this been discussed on sky football?

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Jun 20 8.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

He's right of course.

Football never needed this in the first place. Football is a case of merit earns you a place on the team.

Outside of that it's just far left destructive sentiment.

Shame on the EPL, Sky, The BBC and all the other virtue signalling fools for getting on board the deeply divisive and sinister BLM bandwagon.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jun 20 8.08pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

It was what threw me from the beginning about this entire debacle. BLM for all their many faults are not guilty of spin. It is rather admirable in this modern world. They never hid their wider agenda hence why the sight of people like Starmer and all those cops bending their knees was so alarming.

It made zero sense and shows how almost pavlovian the response is from the Progressive side to even the mildest perception of being accused of racism. No thinking, no trying to understand, just immediate retreat into full compliance with whatever the latest clothes their Emperor thinks he is wearing.

BLM are full on Marxist revolutionaries. And now with healthy bank balances and global recognition, including our own Premiership proclaiming their support loud and proud. Nicely played by the Comrades. Kudos where it is due.


Edited by Matov (30 Jun 2020 10.26am)

Rumours circulating that Starmer back-pedalled after seeing results from a survey on public view of BLM. A survey has just been released.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 01 Jul 20 1.33am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

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The backing down commences.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

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The backing down commences.

Delicious and so sadly inevitable.

Take absolutely ZERO quarter. This is how these ignorant virtue signaling cretins might finally learn.

Nope. They threw their towel in with BLM and released the hounds on anyone that didn't. Own it, and everything it stands for.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 01 Jul 20 5.45am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

"The Premier League said it recognised 'the importance of the message that black lives matter' but made clear that it 'does not endorse any political organisation or movement, nor support any group that calls for violence or condones illegal activity"

Except make every player wear their badge.... kneel before the game.. ref included...

Those that spoke out about this was branded a racist...the truth in the matter is this... yes, there are bad eggs out there in all walks of life... the good far out weigh the bad.

Focus on the good... promote positivity - wanna be a hip hop star, set a good example. wanna be a sport star, set a good example, wanna be a politician, set a good example...

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 01 Jul 20 6.40am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Rumours circulating that Starmer back-pedalled after seeing results from a survey on public view of BLM. A survey has just been released.


Figures. And given the seats Labour needs to win in England and Wales if it is to climb back up into power ever again, then it makes even more sense.

Where I struggle is the notion that it was a good idea in the first place. That somehow they are shocked about what BLM stood for given how open and honest they have always been about their unashamedly Marxist revolutionary stance.

But I am convinced Starmer is just a stooge anyway. Orders from above a so on. But now he has effectively done the legs of the Left with his sacking of RLB I expect his puppet masters no longer feel the need to pander to that side of the party.

They have been smashed and are cowering in a corner. Not got the balls to stand up to him or break away. Just useful idiots who will vote for a Tory lite brand just because they have no other choice.

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 01 Jul 20 7.24am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

The BBC has chosen the campaign to erect a statue to a footballer dropped from playing for England because he was black as one of their top three stories. No mention of the backlash against BLM by people involved with the Premier League on their home page.

Yes, it was harsh and bigoted by the England selectors - especially in the racially enlightened 1920s.

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Jul 20 7.54am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

The BBC has chosen the campaign to erect a statue to a footballer dropped from playing for England because he was black as one of their top three stories. No mention of the backlash against BLM by people involved with the Premier League on their home page.

Yes, it was harsh and bigoted by the England selectors - especially in the racially enlightened 1920s.

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I was going to post on the BBC about this topic as an example yet again of bad journalism. The gist of the story is that he was selected and then dropped because he was black.

1. No evidence is presented in the article to back up this claim so if it exists then it is bad journalism as it should have been included.

2. The article fails to explain how England players were selected and how that process was problematic. Prior to Walter Winterbottom players were called up by a selection committee made up of amateurs. The complaint from within football was that these people had their favourites and ignored the advice of the professionals. Many great players of that era did not get enough caps for this reason and so eventually the selection process was changed.

3. Plymouth Argyle played in the 3rd division and then the 2nd division whilst he was at the club. The article claims (again no evidence) that someone from the FA came and saw him play decided because he was black not to select him. His goal scoring feet in the lower leagues 137 goals in 401 appearances or 1 in 3 hardly a stellar strike rate especially in the lower league. It is just as possible that the scout decided he wasn't that good ?

4. Throw away comment from the BBC he was replaced by Billy Walker of Aston Villa (Division 1). The Beeb forgot to add about Walker

"He is considered by many to be the greatest footballer to ever play for Aston Villa Football Club and one of the greatest players to have played for England"

So being bumped for a player 2 divisions above you with a far better scoring record is hardly a surprise. Walker had a 1 in 2 record for England.

5. Having said all that I don't doubt that Leslie would have suffered racial abuse from opposition fans and it is quite possible that he was dropped for the reasons the article states. However It is not enough to guess that was the reason not if you are the BBC.

If the people of Plymouth want to put up a statue to him why not he clearly was a big fish in a small pond but that doesn't mean he shouldn't have one.

Edited by Badger11 (01 Jul 2020 7.56am)

 


One more point

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