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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 27 Jun 20 10.49am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

It is good to see that in the main on HOL politics discussions it's different points of view reasonably aired and little or no extremism.

I hung around on BBS on one politics thread for a while and it's name calling and very polarised. Every Tory voter is a racist proven by voting in a racist government etc.

In general lot of bemused Corbynistas who can't understand why they lost and have extra vitriol for Starmer and his " Blairite " policies.

No wonder the country gave them a kicking at the last election

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Jun 20 10.56am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I don't think there are any extremists on this site. There are ots of people I don't agree with and that is fine but I don't recall anybody supporting violence (for any side) or saying that racism is a good idea or bring back slavery.

However as you say we do have opinions of all flavour in between those extremes.

As for the BBS to be honest I have never spent any time on it so it would be unfair to comment.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Jun 20 11.03am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I don't think there are any extremists on this site. There are ots of people I don't agree with and that is fine but I don't recall anybody supporting violence (for any side) or saying that racism is a good idea or bring back slavery.

However as you say we do have opinions of all flavour in between those extremes.

As for the BBS to be honest I have never spent any time on it so it would be unfair to comment.


Don't. It is a disgrace to the name Crystal Palace.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 27 Jun 20 8.13pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

I studied Government and Politics at 'A' Level in 1986. The first 30 minutes of any lecture was always consumed by a fierce political debate between students on a non-related topic.
Politics is divisive in a lot of situations, and particularly on the BBS, because political alignment is entrenched, thus debating is pointless. Like in a lot of political arenas.

It's entrenched opinions that keep 'that particular class' in power/opposition and the political system over the working class in-tact.

That is why 'the other site' resorts to attacking posters, and not their point of view. All gets a bit nasty. Lucky i have broad shoulders, and the BBS also has the wonderful 'ignore poster' option.

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 27 Jun 20 8.28pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

I suspect the BBS is merely a mirror in terms of how wider political debate and discourse has become essentially nothing more than echo chambers, especially on the left where the puritanical standards have become narrower and narrower.

The Left has always been far more ideologically purer than the right but up until say 25 or so years ago (probably linked to the fall of the Soviet Union) it had a pretty rigid Marxist ideology around which to mainly dance. Yes, it had its divergences between different sects but essentially, they were all moving in the same direction with a specific goal in mind.

Then comes identity politics. And all of a sudden there are no more rules anymore. It becomes almost a competition to see who can become the most on message with the resulting consequences we see today. The walls narrow and more and more of them are trying to squeeze their way 'into the light'. Except they don't know what actually lays beyond the light. Hence why the modern Left are primarily defined by their 'anti' status as opposed to what they are in favour of.

With the BBS no different. A race to the bottom so to speak. So less and less tolerances and a competition between those charged with moderating to comply with what they see in the world around them.

Identity Dogma is more accurate description than politics because it has taken on many aspects of a new kind of religious mania with nobody having the guts to tell the truth about their Emperor being stark bollock naked.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 27 Jun 20 9.33pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

So has Midland jumped the fence & gone over the border to the BBS?
I have occasional forays over to the BBS usually after a Tory election victory or something like winning the Brexit vote & troll for a while.

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 27 Jun 20 9.40pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

So has Midland jumped the fence & gone over the border to the BBS?
I have occasional forays over to the BBS usually after a Tory election victory or something like winning the Brexit vote & troll for a while.

I get you jim, thats why i have so much fun on here, boris in turmoil and watching people defending him is great fun!If he and the CONS started actually doing anything right i would be off, but totally get your going on bbs to gloat!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Jun 20 9.45pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

So has Midland jumped the fence & gone over the border to the BBS?
I have occasional forays over to the BBS usually after a Tory election victory or something like winning the Brexit vote & troll for a while.

Where is ME? I liked him. I had a spell on bbs on the Brexit thread, boy did they not like those that voted to leave, no room for discussion, I was racist end of. Weirder bunch than us

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 27 Jun 20 9.45pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

I get you jim, thats why i have so much fun on here, boris in turmoil and watching people defending him is great fun!If he and the CONS started actually doing anything right i would be off, but totally get your going on bbs to gloat!

Shouldn't you either be on the BBS Paddy or out spreading corona virus? It's 9.45PM on a Saturday night & you are on a Football fans forum.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Jun 20 9.46pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

I get you jim, thats why i have so much fun on here, boris in turmoil and watching people defending him is great fun!If he and the CONS started actually doing anything right i would be off, but totally get your going on bbs to gloat!

We will miss you

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 27 Jun 20 9.47pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

I suspect the BBS is merely a mirror in terms of how wider political debate and discourse has become essentially nothing more than echo chambers, especially on the left where the puritanical standards have become narrower and narrower.

The Left has always been far more ideologically purer than the right but up until say 25 or so years ago (probably linked to the fall of the Soviet Union) it had a pretty rigid Marxist ideology around which to mainly dance. Yes, it had its divergences between different sects but essentially, they were all moving in the same direction with a specific goal in mind.

Then comes identity politics. And all of a sudden there are no more rules anymore. It becomes almost a competition to see who can become the most on message with the resulting consequences we see today. The walls narrow and more and more of them are trying to squeeze their way 'into the light'. Except they don't know what actually lays beyond the light. Hence why the modern Left are primarily defined by their 'anti' status as opposed to what they are in favour of.

With the BBS no different. A race to the bottom so to speak. So less and less tolerances and a competition between those charged with moderating to comply with what they see in the world around them.

Identity Dogma is more accurate description than politics because it has taken on many aspects of a new kind of religious mania with nobody having the guts to tell the truth about their Emperor being stark bollock naked.

I suspect most of them live in their Mum's box room still

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 27 Jun 20 10.08pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Where is ME? I liked him. I had a spell on bbs on the Brexit thread, boy did they not like those that voted to leave, no room for discussion, I was racist end of. Weirder bunch than us

Has he gone? He is a mod I think. Maybe got the bug and laid up. Or won the lottery and laid up

 

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