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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 30 Jun 20 10.18am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Given our remaining games, I believe that 9 or 10 points is wishful thinking.


Cloud-cuckoo land if we carry on playing as we have in the last two games (Yes I know Liverpool were brilliant against us but we let them play and folded as soon as Wilf went off). We might get 5 points if we are lucky 3 off Villa and a couple of lucky draws.

The only player going forward with any intent was the cameo performance from Meyer. Unfortunately, as is usually the case, no-one else was quick-thinking enough to be on the same wavelength. And Yes, after the Liverpool game, I did say we should get rid of him. He has some talent but he simply doesn't fit our current style of play unless he is given the freedom to buzz betweeen the lines.

 

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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 30 Jun 20 10.24am Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Awful performance from all last night. From our highly-lauded (by people on here) error-ridden keeper to a totally ineffective front 3. This was against a Burnley side who fielded their only 11 fit players and were there for the taking. Yet as usual under Roy we just sit back and pass the ball sideways. There's never any urgency until the last 5 minutes when we decide to try and score. It's the same formation and tactics regardless of opposition with no Plan B (barely a Plan A to be honest). Home games in particular under RH have been the most dull in living memory. Surely we can do better than him?

What was particularly annoying was having the TV pick out Mitchell saying that the club rate him very highly - yet he's 20! Most clubs would have been playing a highly-rated youngster for 2 years by now. Why on earth are we never giving youngsters a chance - they can't do worse than lose. This is why that 16 year old is leaving us rather than sign a deal. Last night was our second oldest-ever team and it looked it.

Another thought. If Benteke isn't going to be fit, then get back Wickham as his loan finished on Sunday,

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 30 Jun 20 10.25am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Cloud-cuckoo land if we carry on playing as we have in the last two games (Yes I know Liverpool were brilliant against us but we let them play and folded as soon as Wilf went off). We might get 5 points if we are lucky 3 off Villa and a couple of lucky draws.

The only player going forward with any intent was the cameo performance from Meyer. Unfortunately, as is usually the case, no-one else was quick-thinking enough to be on the same wavelength. And Yes, after the Liverpool game, I did say we should get rid of him. He has some talent but he simply doesn't fit our current style of play unless he is given the freedom to buzz betweeen the lines.

Which is exactly what he should be given.

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 30 Jun 20 10.29am Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Cloud-cuckoo land if we carry on playing as we have in the last two games (Yes I know Liverpool were brilliant against us but we let them play and folded as soon as Wilf went off). We might get 5 points if we are lucky 3 off Villa and a couple of lucky draws.

The only player going forward with any intent was the cameo performance from Meyer. Unfortunately, as is usually the case, no-one else was quick-thinking enough to be on the same wavelength. And Yes, after the Liverpool game, I did say we should get rid of him. He has some talent but he simply doesn't fit our current style of play unless he is given the freedom to buzz betweeen the lines.

Style is a strong word to discribe our tactics. The way the team is set up is wrong, not the players.

Just listened to Roy's interview on BBC. It's just a barage of cliches.

Realistically we expect to win 3 points over the remainder of the season. That will mean this mid-table finish many of you are hyping up will not happen.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Jun 20 10.37am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Style is a strong word to discribe our tactics. The way the team is set up is wrong, not the players.

Just listened to Roy's interview on BBC. It's just a barage of cliches.

Realistically we expect to win 3 points over the remainder of the season. That will mean this mid-table finish many of you are hyping up will not happen.

There will be those who will assert that we are 6 pts better off than at the same juncture as last season and certainly won't go down so at the end of the season "Mission accomplished".

Edited by Willo (30 Jun 2020 10.38am)

 

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View HerneBayPalace's Profile HerneBayPalace Flag Herne Bay 30 Jun 20 10.38am Send a Private Message to HerneBayPalace Add HerneBayPalace as a friend

Last night was pretty poor but I don't think Burnley were great. We allowed them to keep hold of the ball but they didn't give us too many issues from open play.

Zaha didn't look fit enough to be on the pitch and Townsend just doesn't seem up to any sort of standard at the moment. The big issue is they have been our only two wingers for about 2 years, which isn't good enough and I am sick of us having zero options off of the bench.

We are missing Schlupp who carries the ball and pushes the team forward, as does Kouyate at times. There was no height, creativity or power in the midfield and it was a game that would have likely been won by a mistake or a set piece, which proved true.

VG made a howler, he knew it, we move on. He's made a few and although he is a great keeper, these mistakes are probably why he plays for Crystal Palace.

Our best player was 32 year old James McArthur, who usually last about 65-70 mins a game and he completed the 90.

We still have Leicester, Man Utd, Chelsea, Wolves & Spurs to play - looks like a fairly solemn end to our season.

Please give the kids a run out !

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 30 Jun 20 10.47am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Those who want to see Meyer play Ďin between the linesí,
are going to be disappointed.
Hodgson uses him either on the right or left of a nominal front three, a role to which he is patently unsuited.
Hodgson always chooses his midfield three from Mcarthur, Luka, Kouyate and Mcarthy.
If there were injuries then Riedewald would be the next option.
Essentially team shape is everything to Hodgson and while he is in charge it has to be very doubtful we will see a No 10 type player pulling the strings in midfield.
Letís hope recruitment runs players past Hodgson in the summer because if they donít fit the system/shape they wonít play however talented they may be.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Jun 20 10.51am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Those who want to see Meyer play Ďin between the linesí,
are going to be disappointed.
Hodgson uses him either on the right or left of a nominal front three, a role to which he is patently unsuited.
Hodgson always chooses his midfield three from Mcarthur, Luka, Kouyate and Mcarthy.
If there were injuries then Riedewald would be the next option.
Essentially team shape is everything to Hodgson and while he is in charge it has to be very doubtful we will see a No 10 type player pulling the strings in midfield.
Letís hope recruitment runs players past Hodgson in the summer because if they donít fit the system/shape they wonít play however talented they may be.

I concur with these sentiments.
Tips hat.

 

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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 30 Jun 20 10.55am Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

There will be those who will assert that we are 6 pts better off than at the same juncture as last season and certainly won't go down so at the end of the season "Mission accomplished".

Edited by Willo (30 Jun 2020 10.38am)

My concern as is yours I guess is next season with this squad? It almost needs a complete overhaul as itís the oldest first team squad in the prem. Burnley may be older, not sure. But anyway the 2 Mcís, Milo and Kouyatť are the midfielders that Roy H chooses from first and they donít have much of a clue playing over the half way line? We need either to play 2 of that 4 with Meyer as a creative midfielder or if he isnít good enough get someone else in. Personally I think he is good enough but Roy H wonít change that defensive midfield - I also think Sakho needs to play alongside either Dann, Tompkins or Cahill as he can actually play out of defence. But that doesnít look like happening either. And donít get me started on Zaha and Townsend and how they donít play as they once did - Grrrr!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Jun 20 10.58am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

A drop down the table costs £1.9 Mill a place at the end of the season.

But we will drop down anyway at this rate. Once Burnley scores we were always going to struggle so why not give them a run out. They are asking fans to support the academy but the manager isnít even doing that

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Jun 20 11.02am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Which is exactly what he should be given.

Bingo! He can pick a pass but desperately needs game time and not to be played out of position

Edited by Spiderman (30 Jun 2020 12.09pm)

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 30 Jun 20 11.28am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by HerneBayPalace

Last night was pretty poor but I don't think Burnley were great. We allowed them to keep hold of the ball but they didn't give us too many issues from open play.

Zaha didn't look fit enough to be on the pitch and Townsend just doesn't seem up to any sort of standard at the moment. The big issue is they have been our only two wingers for about 2 years, which isn't good enough and I am sick of us having zero options off of the bench.

We are missing Schlupp who carries the ball and pushes the team forward, as does Kouyate at times. There was no height, creativity or power in the midfield and it was a game that would have likely been won by a mistake or a set piece, which proved true.

VG made a howler, he knew it, we move on. He's made a few and although he is a great keeper, these mistakes are probably why he plays for Crystal Palace.

Our best player was 32 year old James McArthur, who usually last about 65-70 mins a game and he completed the 90.

We still have Leicester, Man Utd, Chelsea, Wolves & Spurs to play - looks like a fairly solemn end to our season.

Please give the kids a run out !

Burnley were very well organised defensively, against the bigger teams we are coming up against we will play better because although they have better defenders they will concentrate much more up-field which in turn because of our own organisation at the back will enable us to play a better game attacking wise with much more space, we missed Benteke last night and at Liverpool because he does actually cause problems for defenders by holding up play he was I feel greatly improving as a player before the lockdown.

 

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