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View Wilbraham413's Profile Wilbraham413 Flag 09 Jul 20 12.40am Send a Private Message to Wilbraham413 Add Wilbraham413 as a friend

This quote from the article scares me:

"But successive one-year plans to stay in the division have an expiry date, and given the first-team squadís age profile, itís rapidly approaching."

I think of Stoke and Bournemouth being two teams that we envied as stable in past years. We have no young players contributing this year, for whatever reason.

 


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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag 09 Jul 20 12.20pm Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by viveasheagle

I had high hopes of Meyer when he came. He is a neat and tidy player who passes well but he is not much of a goal threat and looks to lightweight to play a holding midfield role. On plus side he was a free signing on down side i think we can get in a better player for the wages he is on.

there is no such thing as a free transfer at our level of football. The transfer fee savings go into the wages and agent fees.
At £125k a week Meyer will cost us over £20m during his 3 year contract

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 09 Jul 20 2.13pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

If that £20 million is anywhere near accurate itís a sobering thought.
Perhaps weíre betting sticking with the Cahills and Ayews of this world!
We may be better off spending money on poaching Brentfordís scouting department.
They manage to turn up gems from all sorts of unlikely places.
Back to Meyer - I wonder what sort of a fee he will command if he leaves in the summer?
Heís never going to really feature under Hodgson, but in fairness he has not set the world alight in his limited opportunities - all though mostly in positions which donít allow him to demonstrate his neat passing skills.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 09 Jul 20 2.40pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

This quote from the article scares me:

"But successive one-year plans to stay in the division have an expiry date, and given the first-team squadís age profile, itís rapidly approaching."

I think of Stoke and Bournemouth being two teams that we envied as stable in past years. We have no young players contributing this year, for whatever reason.

That was the point I raised on another thread.

Roy is on another 12 month contract. Understandable given his age.

But hardly helps in anything other than short term planning.

While the squad's average age is rightly a cause for concern, this can be addressed over 2-3 transfer windows, it doesn't have to be done all in one go and nor should it.

 


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View NickinOX's Profile NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 09 Jul 20 3.17pm Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

There have been many players over the years who have struggled because of this. One that sticks in my mind was Belgian International Roger Van Gool who played at Coventry in 80/81. He spent a lot of matches looking dumbstruck and shaking his head that no-one had passed the ball into the acre of space he had just created for himself, or he would play the killer pass into an area his fellow forward was stood looking at. They said when he left it was because he wasnít on the same wavelength as the rest of the team whereas most fans thought he was simply too good for them.

As many have already said, Meyer is a decent player playing in the wrong team.

I remember seeing a young Trevor Francis play passes only for his team mates to stare in befuddlement. It took time in the team for them all to be on the same wavelength.

 


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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 09 Jul 20 5.59pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

That was the point I raised on another thread.

Roy is on another 12 month contract. Understandable given his age.

But hardly helps in anything other than short term planning.

While the squad's average age is rightly a cause for concern, this can be addressed over 2-3 transfer windows, it doesn't have to be done all in one go and nor should it.

Not if the last 2/3 transfer windows are anything to go by!

 

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Originally posted by NEILLO

That was the point I raised on another thread.

Roy is on another 12 month contract. Understandable given his age.

But hardly helps in anything other than short term planning.

While the squad's average age is rightly a cause for concern, this can be addressed over 2-3 transfer windows, it doesn't have to be done all in one go and nor should it.

The two options are then

1) Give Roy no more money, let the club save for a predecessor in a years time.
2) Give Roy cash, let him have some money to second guess the kind of squad his successor might want.
3) Sack Roy at the end of the season. Give his successor the truncated off season to prepare for the start of next season.
4) Sack Roy now, give his successor a few weeks at the end of this season to assess the players he wants to keep, and the summer to bring in new players.

On a side note - the gap between seasons is likely to be short in order to finish next season in time for the Euro's. We can expect a whole year of games coming think and fast. Not helpful for an ageing team. More reason to give the frindge players a lot of minutes until the end of this season.

 

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View Kant's Profile Kant Flag exeter 09 Jul 20 11.04pm Send a Private Message to Kant Add Kant as a friend

I havenít noticed any of these killer balls into space that Meyerís inferior team mates have been unable to take advantage of. I noticed in the Chelsea game the first thing he did when he came on was to give the ball away. Iím pretty sure he made no killer passes or runs thereafter. Heís sub average, lightweight and needs to be shipped out pronto. Why people on here are so sympathetic to him is beyond me. I know he was hyped up when he arrived but surely people have seen enough to know he isnít much cop.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 10 Jul 20 2.39am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Zaha should be sold, replaced with a player that will compliment a midfield system that promotes Meyer. He has to be be built around and given a season run out.

We also need to replace Ward with a young right back.

We need to sell Sakho. We need to blood in a youth defender... Tomkins, Cahill, Dan, Kelly are more than enough at CB.

We need to sell Benteke and cut out losses regardless with him... or, make it work where he plays and has Meyer in the midfield too...

Either way, this summer we need to change a stale environment.

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 10 Jul 20 7.51am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

Not if the last 2/3 transfer windows are anything to go by!

I did say '' can '' not '' will '' !

 


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Originally posted by jeeagles

The two options are then

1) Give Roy no more money, let the club save for a predecessor in a years time.
2) Give Roy cash, let him have some money to second guess the kind of squad his successor might want.
3) Sack Roy at the end of the season. Give his successor the truncated off season to prepare for the start of next season.
4) Sack Roy now, give his successor a few weeks at the end of this season to assess the players he wants to keep, and the summer to bring in new players.

On a side note - the gap between seasons is likely to be short in order to finish next season in time for the Euro's. We can expect a whole year of games coming think and fast. Not helpful for an ageing team. More reason to give the frindge players a lot of minutes until the end of this season.

That's 4 options !

As I said, the squad needs a rebuild of sorts but that's not going to happen in 1 window, so it's feasible that Roy starts that process but may not finish it.

If / when we complete he signing of Nathan Ferguson, I see that as the start of the process. We are also being linked ( I know ) with a number of players all of which are younger than those we currently have.

Now would be the time to give fringe players some opportunities given the Europe pipe dream is over and relegation not a threat, but he aren't blessed with too many of them in truth. I'd certainly like to see what young Mitchell can do at left back.

 


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Originally posted by NEILLO

That's 4 options !

As I said, the squad needs a rebuild of sorts but that's not going to happen in 1 window, so it's feasible that Roy starts that process but may not finish it.

If / when we complete he signing of Nathan Ferguson, I see that as the start of the process. We are also being linked ( I know ) with a number of players all of which are younger than those we currently have.

Now would be the time to give fringe players some opportunities given the Europe pipe dream is over and relegation not a threat, but he aren't blessed with too many of them in truth. I'd certainly like to see what young Mitchell can do at left back.

Had two ideas after I started writing.

I'd say our frindge players are Mayer, Reidewald, Mitchell, and Pierreck at the moment. There's at least 4 platers he could use regularly.

He gave Mayer 2 minutes vs Chelsea and still had an unused sub with Reidewald on the bench whilst Kayoute was obviously shattered.

He won't use the frindge platers at all.

 

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