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A1969Eagle Redhill 13 Jul 20 11.15pm
I think he will. He will look in the mirror and say this is my team and we are in the premier league and I will leave with my head high. It is time for me retire with honour. Roy hated leaving England the way he did, can you imagine his style of football relegating our Palace next season. No good player will come and risk their career under Roy, he has destroyed good players at our club, with disciplined Plan A. We can see it, players can see it. What would his legacy be then.. only failure. I think he knows his lost the players in the team. At Villa, 4 players tried to get themselves sent off Zaha Sakho Milo and then Benteke succeeded. If he is a man of honour, after the final whistle or let the team know prior to the final match, he is retiring. I would for one would welcome it and thank Roy for what he did for us. Take us down.. no way, he as bad as all Liverpool fans think he is.. and that was with quality players, they rebelled against Roys negative tactics! There is no way I would take a chance with Palace next season with Roy in place. Palace cannot afford to be relegated or spend money on "Roys" players that would be offloaded as soon as new manager arrives. So Roy to retire on 26th July Yes or No?

A1969Eagle

Redhill 13 Jul 20 11.15pm

I think he will.
He will look in the mirror and say this is my team and we are in the premier league and I will leave with my head high.
It is time for me retire with honour.

Roy hated leaving England the way he did, can you imagine his style of football relegating our Palace next season.

No good player will come and risk their career under Roy, he has destroyed good players at our club, with disciplined Plan A. We can see it, players can see it.

What would his legacy be then.. only failure.

I think he knows his lost the players in the team.
At Villa, 4 players tried to get themselves sent off
Zaha
Sakho
Milo
and then Benteke succeeded.

If he is a man of honour, after the final whistle or let the team know prior to the final match, he is retiring.
I would for one would welcome it and thank Roy for what he did for us.

Take us down.. no way, he as bad as all Liverpool fans think he is.. and that was with quality players, they rebelled against Roys negative tactics!

There is no way I would take a chance with Palace next season with Roy in place. Palace cannot afford to be relegated or spend money on "Roys" players that would be offloaded as soon as new manager arrives.

So Roy to retire on 26th July
Yes or No?

southnorwoodhill 14 Jul 20 7.39am
I'd fully expect Parish to thank him for his work, but tell him that recent results are totally unacceptable, the team have lost interest and discipline, the fans are unhappy with the negative football, and it is time for a new season with a new manager in charge. It'll be more like a gentleman's agreement than an outright sacking, a suitable outcome for both parties. Edited by southnorwoodhill (14 Jul 2020 7.39am) Edited by southnorwoodhill (14 Jul 2020 8.14am)

southnorwoodhill

14 Jul 20 7.39am

I'd fully expect Parish to thank him for his work, but tell him that recent results are totally unacceptable, the team have lost interest and discipline, the fans are unhappy with the negative football, and it is time for a new season with a new manager in charge. It'll be more like a gentleman's agreement than an outright sacking, a suitable outcome for both parties.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (14 Jul 2020 7.39am)

Edited by southnorwoodhill (14 Jul 2020 8.14am)

The Dolphin 14 Jul 20 2.26pm
I do not want to do a Charlton but really feel that a new man is needed now.

The Dolphin

14 Jul 20 2.26pm

I do not want to do a Charlton but really feel that a new man is needed now.

taylors lovechild 14 Jul 20 3.26pm
If this was happening in April/May then possibly this would happen, but with the turnaround to the new season likely to be very short unless we have a new manager lined up and ready to go it could prove costly to let Roy leave. Personally I think he was let down with promises of new players that never materialised and given what he had available to him it is a great accomplishment that we were effectively safe with almost a quarter of the season left to play. Ayew has attributed his personal turnaround to Roy so I wouldn't be so sure that players don't want to play for him. I also imagine he had a hand in convincing Cahill to come. On the flips side the football has been depressing at times and our one usually reliably entertaining player has put his magic set away for reasons only known to himself. Personally I wouldn't be devastated if he left but I would also be fine with him staying, especially if we actually sign a few quality players (I think that is more important than the manager right now).

taylors lovechild

14 Jul 20 3.26pm

If this was happening in April/May then possibly this would happen, but with the turnaround to the new season likely to be very short unless we have a new manager lined up and ready to go it could prove costly to let Roy leave.

Personally I think he was let down with promises of new players that never materialised and given what he had available to him it is a great accomplishment that we were effectively safe with almost a quarter of the season left to play. Ayew has attributed his personal turnaround to Roy so I wouldn't be so sure that players don't want to play for him. I also imagine he had a hand in convincing Cahill to come. On the flips side the football has been depressing at times and our one usually reliably entertaining player has put his magic set away for reasons only known to himself.

Personally I wouldn't be devastated if he left but I would also be fine with him staying, especially if we actually sign a few quality players (I think that is more important than the manager right now).

Uphill Bedford 14 Jul 20 3.43pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild If this was happening in April/May then possibly this would happen, but with the turnaround to the new season likely to be very short unless we have a new manager lined up and ready to go it could prove costly to let Roy leave. Personally I think he was let down with promises of new players that never materialised and given what he had available to him it is a great accomplishment that we were effectively safe with almost a quarter of the season left to play. Ayew has attributed his personal turnaround to Roy so I wouldn't be so sure that players don't want to play for him. I also imagine he had a hand in convincing Cahill to come. On the flips side the football has been depressing at times and our one usually reliably entertaining player has put his magic set away for reasons only known to himself. Personally I wouldn't be devastated if he left but I would also be fine with him staying, especially if we actually sign a few quality players (I think that is more important than the manager right now). It is his overwhelmingly negative attitude that is most important

Uphill

Bedford 14 Jul 20 3.43pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Personally I wouldn't be devastated if he left but I would also be fine with him staying, especially if we actually sign a few quality players (I think that is more important than the manager right now).

It is his overwhelmingly negative attitude that is most important

Elpis In a pub 14 Jul 20 7.45pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild If this was happening in April/May then possibly this would happen, but with the turnaround to the new season likely to be very short unless we have a new manager lined up and ready to go it could prove costly to let Roy leave. Personally I think he was let down with promises of new players that never materialised and given what he had available to him it is a great accomplishment that we were effectively safe with almost a quarter of the season left to play. Ayew has attributed his personal turnaround to Roy so I wouldn't be so sure that players don't want to play for him. I also imagine he had a hand in convincing Cahill to come. On the flips side the football has been depressing at times and our one usually reliably entertaining player has put his magic set away for reasons only known to himself. Personally I wouldn't be devastated if he left but I would also be fine with him staying, especially if we actually sign a few quality players (I think that is more important than the manager right now). I would agree with much of that ,good post .

Elpis

In a pub 14 Jul 20 7.45pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I would agree with much of that ,good post .

Gyro1780 Leatherhead, Surrey 14 Jul 20 8.07pm
I like Roy & he's done well keeping us up but we do need a change.

Gyro1780

Leatherhead, Surrey 14 Jul 20 8.07pm

I like Roy & he's done well keeping us up but we do need a change.

BlueJay UK 14 Jul 20 8.31pm
We're at a crossroads and could do with making a change, else it's stagnation territory. On the other hand though, for many, Roy has done enough to stay on. Lots of posts predicting he's on his way out but I can't see it myself.

BlueJay

UK 14 Jul 20 8.31pm

We're at a crossroads and could do with making a change, else it's stagnation territory. On the other hand though, for many, Roy has done enough to stay on. Lots of posts predicting he's on his way out but I can't see it myself.

Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 14 Jul 20 9.07pm
Most deluded thread of the year? Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 14 Jul 20 9.07pm

Most deluded thread of the year?

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

iheartcpfc SE25 15 Jul 20 12.36am
I can only pray he does. If we end up losing 8 he'll be lucky to leave on his terms

iheartcpfc

SE25 15 Jul 20 12.36am

I can only pray he does. If we end up losing 8 he'll be lucky to leave on his terms

Den1923 15 Jul 20 9.22am
We cannot change managers now, too close to start of new season. We need 4/5 new players smartly sourced and Roy to guide to safety again next season. In the meantime succession planning needs to take place over next 12 months, so we have new manager when Roy retires which will hopefully not be before his contract extension expires. We certainly do not any panicked appointments of unsuitable replacements at this time.

Den1923

15 Jul 20 9.22am

We cannot change managers now, too close to start of new season. We need 4/5 new players smartly sourced and Roy to guide to safety again next season. In the meantime succession planning needs to take place over next 12 months, so we have new manager when Roy retires which will hopefully not be before his contract extension expires. We certainly do not any panicked appointments of unsuitable replacements at this time.

southnorwoodhill 15 Jul 20 9.54am
Originally posted by Den1923 We cannot change managers now, too close to start of new season. We need 4/5 new players smartly sourced and Roy to guide to safety again next season. In the meantime succession planning needs to take place over next 12 months, so we have new manager when Roy retires which will hopefully not be before his contract extension expires. We certainly do not any panicked appointments of unsuitable replacements at this time. You could have written this 2 seasons ago and it would have had as much validity, in the sense that I thought Roy was brought in to ensure a solid base from which to rebuild. Unfortunately signings like McCarthy and Sorloth has me thinking that there remains a lot to be done. I'm not convinced Roy is the man to do it.

southnorwoodhill

15 Jul 20 9.54am

Originally posted by Den1923

You could have written this 2 seasons ago and it would have had as much validity, in the sense that I thought Roy was brought in to ensure a solid base from which to rebuild. Unfortunately signings like McCarthy and Sorloth has me thinking that there remains a lot to be done. I'm not convinced Roy is the man to do it.

Den1923 15 Jul 20 10.31am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill You could have written this 2 seasons ago and it would have had as much validity, in the sense that I thought Roy was brought in to ensure a solid base from which to rebuild. Unfortunately signings like McCarthy and Sorloth has me thinking that there remains a lot to be done. I'm not convinced Roy is the man to do it. I perfectly understand your feelings but as far the team is concerned, Royhas asked reinforcement many times and has not been supported by the board. The team squad in the main was not his, in that respect it is full of previous managers choices. I do believe wrongly or rightly that the balance of the current squad means he can only play a certain way and sadly some players Riedewald and Meyer for example have not been been given a fair chance for that reason. We need a good transfer window, hopefully smartly spent like Sheffield United Who spent 62mil very smartly strengthening their team when they were promoted plus some good loan players that has given them a very talented squad built on a modest budget by today’s standards. Right now is the wrong time to change with the season only weeks away. The other problem is what talented manager who is available would want the job with this current squad we have available and a board who want out and will not invest in team development.

Den1923

15 Jul 20 10.31am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

I perfectly understand your feelings but as far the team is concerned, Royhas asked reinforcement many times and has not been supported by the board. The team squad in the main was not his, in that respect it is full of previous managers choices. I do believe wrongly or rightly that the balance of the current squad means he can only play a certain way and sadly some players Riedewald and Meyer for example have not been been given a fair chance for that reason. We need a good transfer window, hopefully smartly spent like Sheffield United Who spent 62mil very smartly strengthening their team when they were promoted plus some good loan players that has given them a very talented squad built on a modest budget by today’s standards. Right now is the wrong time to change with the season only weeks away. The other problem is what talented manager who is available would want the job with this current squad we have available and a board who want out and will not invest in team development.

southnorwoodhill 15 Jul 20 11.15am
Originally posted by Den1923 I perfectly understand your feelings but as far the team is concerned, Royhas asked reinforcement many times and has not been supported by the board. The team squad in the main was not his, in that respect it is full of previous managers choices. I do believe wrongly or rightly that the balance of the current squad means he can only play a certain way and sadly some players Riedewald and Meyer for example have not been been given a fair chance for that reason. We need a good transfer window, hopefully smartly spent like Sheffield United Who spent 62mil very smartly strengthening their team when they were promoted plus some good loan players that has given them a very talented squad built on a modest budget by today’s standards. Right now is the wrong time to change with the season only weeks away. The other problem is what talented manager who is available would want the job with this current squad we have available and a board who want out and will not invest in team development. The irony being that if Roy did have access to a modest transfer kitty and found 3 or 4 decent players, surely any new manager coming in would have suggestions as to the type of players he would like to bring in too. Given that Roy has a 12 month contract extension I can't see that it would make much sense to hand him a kitty if the idea is to bring someone new in in 12 months time.

southnorwoodhill

15 Jul 20 11.15am

Originally posted by Den1923

The irony being that if Roy did have access to a modest transfer kitty and found 3 or 4 decent players, surely any new manager coming in would have suggestions as to the type of players he would like to bring in too. Given that Roy has a 12 month contract extension I can't see that it would make much sense to hand him a kitty if the idea is to bring someone new in in 12 months time.

Den1923 15 Jul 20 11.24am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill The irony being that if Roy did have access to a modest transfer kitty and found 3 or 4 decent players, surely any new manager coming in would have suggestions as to the type of players he would like to bring in too. Given that Roy has a 12 month contract extension I can't see that it would make much sense to hand him a kitty if the idea is to bring someone new in in 12 months time. We need 4/5 new players right now, we cannot risk another season scoring only 0.85 goals per game otherwise we will be relegated and that will have a serious outcome on the future of the club.

Den1923

15 Jul 20 11.24am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

We need 4/5 new players right now, we cannot risk another season scoring only 0.85 goals per game otherwise we will be relegated and that will have a serious outcome on the future of the club.

southnorwoodhill 15 Jul 20 11.28am
Originally posted by Den1923 We need 4/5 new players right now, we cannot risk another season scoring only 0.85 goals per game otherwise we will be relegated and that will have a serious outcome on the future of the club. No doubt. We've desperately needed a right back since the departure of AWB, instead another defensive midfielder is brought in. Duh.

southnorwoodhill

15 Jul 20 11.28am

Originally posted by Den1923

We need 4/5 new players right now, we cannot risk another season scoring only 0.85 goals per game otherwise we will be relegated and that will have a serious outcome on the future of the club.

No doubt. We've desperately needed a right back since the departure of AWB, instead another defensive midfielder is brought in. Duh.

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jul 20 11.52am
Originally posted by Den1923 I perfectly understand your feelings but as far the team is concerned, Royhas asked reinforcement many times and has not been supported by the board. The team squad in the main was not his, in that respect it is full of previous managers choices. I do believe wrongly or rightly that the balance of the current squad means he can only play a certain way and sadly some players Riedewald and Meyer for example have not been been given a fair chance for that reason. We need a good transfer window, hopefully smartly spent like Sheffield United Who spent 62mil very smartly strengthening their team when they were promoted plus some good loan players that has given them a very talented squad built on a modest budget by today’s standards. Right now is the wrong time to change with the season only weeks away. The other problem is what talented manager who is available would want the job with this current squad we have available and a board who want out and will not invest in team development. 1. The new season is unlikely to start before the second weekend in September - not as long a break as normal but there will be seven or so weeks between the old and the new if the rumours are true. 2. Given our recent transfer history, can we expect any serious dealings this summer? With what money? IN other words, why would a talented manager want to come to us in a year's time if he isn't prepared to come now?

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jul 20 11.52am

Originally posted by Den1923

1. The new season is unlikely to start before the second weekend in September - not as long a break as normal but there will be seven or so weeks between the old and the new if the rumours are true.
2. Given our recent transfer history, can we expect any serious dealings this summer? With what money? IN other words, why would a talented manager want to come to us in a year's time if he isn't prepared to come now?

beak croydon 15 Jul 20 12.52pm
That would be the worst possible news,Eddie Howe would come in and F*** it all up.Hodgson =Premier survival.

beak

croydon 15 Jul 20 12.52pm

That would be the worst possible news,Eddie Howe would come in and F*** it all up.Hodgson =Premier survival.

Den1923 15 Jul 20 1.09pm
Originally posted by doombear 1. The new season is unlikely to start before the second weekend in September - not as long a break as normal but there will be seven or so weeks between the old and the new if the rumours are true. 2. Given our recent transfer history, can we expect any serious dealings this summer? With what money? IN other words, why would a talented manager want to come to us in a year's time if he isn't prepared to come now? I’m afraid prior to Roy our record with managers was pretty poor and several walked away because they could not secure funds for investment in the team. We need a year to improve the squad with some smart additions. The board will have to do something on the team investment front, if they do not then the value of the club will drop significantly because of lost revenue as we will almost certainly go down. The job of finding a Manager will take time if they are any good as that person would currently be in a job elsewhere. Anyone available right now would probably have already failed elsewhere and is struggling to find a job. We do not want another FdV fiasco.

Den1923

15 Jul 20 1.09pm

Originally posted by doombear

I’m afraid prior to Roy our record with managers was pretty poor and several walked away because they could not secure funds for investment in the team. We need a year to improve the squad with some smart additions. The board will have to do something on the team investment front, if they do not then the value of the club will drop significantly because of lost revenue as we will almost certainly go down. The job of finding a Manager will take time if they are any good as that person would currently be in a job elsewhere. Anyone available right now would probably have already failed elsewhere and is struggling to find a job. We do not want another FdV fiasco.

A1969Eagle Redhill 15 Jul 20 1.10pm
What quality player in their right mind would go to Palace and play Roys Brand "Plan A". Thats why no ones been coming. What any MOD for a snapshot of which team they could choose and on the current basis very few would come our way unless a top player at end of career like the excellent Cahill, old no value but for Palace, excellent. Ayew (im so pleased he did, where would be now with goals) was lost at Swansea, we offered him a chance and way out... Promises maybe but that comes down to a player to come to Palace/move house & family to choose whether they wanted to come.. time to get real... they didnt choose Palace... Originally posted by taylors lovechild If this was happening in April/May then possibly this would happen, but with the turnaround to the new season likely to be very short unless we have a new manager lined up and ready to go it could prove costly to let Roy leave. Personally I think he was let down with promises of new players that never materialised and given what he had available to him it is a great accomplishment that we were effectively safe with almost a quarter of the season left to play. Ayew has attributed his personal turnaround to Roy so I wouldn't be so sure that players don't want to play for him. I also imagine he had a hand in convincing Cahill to come. On the flips side the football has been depressing at times and our one usually reliably entertaining player has put his magic set away for reasons only known to himself. Personally I wouldn't be devastated if he left but I would also be fine with him staying, especially if we actually sign a few quality players (I think that is more important than the manager right now).

A1969Eagle

Redhill 15 Jul 20 1.10pm

What quality player in their right mind would go to Palace and play Roys Brand "Plan A". Thats why no ones been coming. What any MOD for a snapshot of which team they could choose and on the current basis very few would come our way unless a top player at end of career like the excellent Cahill, old no value but for Palace, excellent. Ayew (im so pleased he did, where would be now with goals) was lost at Swansea, we offered him a chance and way out...
Promises maybe but that comes down to a player to come to Palace/move house & family to choose whether they wanted to come.. time to get real... they didnt choose Palace...

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

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