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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 15 Aug 20 9.16am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yep. Wise post. Not an easy one for Parish tbf to him though. Zahas lack of end product, more value to us, Hodgson devaluing players other than defensive players in years ahead after the contract. But then Hodgson has done that in our battle to stay up so hes guaranteed our safety but devalued our attacking players. Benteke included seeing as he was on fire the season before Roy. He never recovered after. Benteke takes a lot of blame but Hodgson set his team up around the back 7 or 8, not an attacking pattern of play. Swings and roundabouts.

Not sure I agree with the points about Roy devaluing players (I suspect you know this). Ive repeated my views quite a lot on Benteke and the number of good chances he missed in Roys first season, lack of character and effort in digging himself out the rut, hiding etc

With regard to Zaha he was outstanding in Roys first two seasons but the season just gone he was below par and there have been question marks around attitude and commitment Hes had his moments like at home to Brighton. Perhaps hes bored as you infer but I think highly strung players like him need a crowd to play to and the absence of one in the last nine or so games wont have helped. The fact that he raised his game when we played United and Chelsea is also significant IMO.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 15 Aug 20 9.44am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Not sure I agree with the points about Roy devaluing players (I suspect you know this). Ive repeated my views quite a lot on Benteke and the number of good chances he missed in Roys first season, lack of character and effort in digging himself out the rut, hiding etc

With regard to Zaha he was outstanding in Roys first two seasons but the season just gone he was below par and there have been question marks around attitude and commitment Hes had his moments like at home to Brighton. Perhaps hes bored as you infer but I think highly strung players like him need a crowd to play to and the absence of one in the last nine or so games wont have helped. The fact that he raised his game when we played United and Chelsea is also significant IMO.


in other words, it seems that he makes a real effort when he's in the shop window against a big 6 team, otherwise he's going through the motions (Brighton excepted because he knows how important that game is to us fans).

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 15 Aug 20 10.01am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


in other words, it seems that he makes a real effort when he's in the shop window against a big 6 team, otherwise he's going through the motions (Brighton excepted because he knows how important that game is to us fans).

Indeed. Particularly memorable was a star man performance against Arsenal (last season?), coincidently about that time of the transfer request and their alleged interest. Must be a subconscious thing going on.

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag 15 Aug 20 11.42am Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Not sure I agree with the points about Roy devaluing players (I suspect you know this). Ive repeated my views quite a lot on Benteke and the number of good chances he missed in Roys first season, lack of character and effort in digging himself out the rut, hiding etc

With regard to Zaha he was outstanding in Roys first two seasons but the season just gone he was below par and there have been question marks around attitude and commitment Hes had his moments like at home to Brighton. Perhaps hes bored as you infer but I think highly strung players like him need a crowd to play to and the absence of one in the last nine or so games wont have helped. The fact that he raised his game when we played United and Chelsea is also significant IMO.


People really do exaggerate Zaha he has never been outstanding.

Looks like their is a pattern with him people many years ago going on about attitude and excuses made yet its showing again it really does appear to be an issue the problem is he has a** kissers all around him some one needs to put him straight which I expect it too late now at his age.

This guy is 28 he really hasn't shown much at Palace he should be a super star if he is that good as the claims by fans plus pundits yet he's not now I know again excuses will be made but again top players don't use them and are intelligent enough to read whats going on in games taking advantage of it he never does any of this.

I would say this is why he would never make it in big team that is the difference you can have all the talent but if you cant use it or know how to use it its useless plus having poor attitude doesn't help.

This guy after what happened with his failed move should of hit the ground running to really show the other teams what they missed out yet look what we got he he was awful should of not even been selected to play from the start.

We will be lucky to get 30m for this guy

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Aug 20 1.01pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I have always loved Wilf as one of our own. Today, I actually want him to leave. I'm sick of the attitude on the pitch and haven't been too happy with social media off of it. I just hope we don't sell him without a replacement, but this is Palace so could easily happen.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View CPFC1965's Profile CPFC1965 Flag Warrington 15 Aug 20 1.41pm Send a Private Message to CPFC1965 Add CPFC1965 as a friend

I would like to see him re invent himself as an out and out winger, hug the touchline and whip crosses in for others. The same applies to Townsend as well.

They always cut in early and are predictable for defenders. He's got to realise that top clubs have similar players to him, many younger and needs to expand his game to get his dream move.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 15 Aug 20 2.32pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


People really do exaggerate Zaha he has never been outstanding.

Looks like their is a pattern with him people many years ago going on about attitude and excuses made yet its showing again it really does appear to be an issue the problem is he has a** kissers all around him some one needs to put him straight which I expect it too late now at his age.

This guy is 28 he really hasn't shown much at Palace he should be a super star if he is that good as the claims by fans plus pundits yet he's not now I know again excuses will be made but again top players don't use them and are intelligent enough to read whats going on in games taking advantage of it he never does any of this.

I would say this is why he would never make it in big team that is the difference you can have all the talent but if you cant use it or know how to use it its useless plus having poor attitude doesn't help.

This guy after what happened with his failed move should of hit the ground running to really show the other teams what they missed out yet look what we got he he was awful should of not even been selected to play from the start.

We will be lucky to get 30m for this guy

Like you say he's nearly 28 and at 120k a week plus fee will be seen as too much of punt particularly for those who have a wage structure.

In my 45 years of watching (albeit on and off) he has to go down as the best. Been the difference between league one and seven years in the Premier League and an FA Cup final.

The game is faster and technically superior (in my opinion by some distance) to when we were previously yo-yoing in and out of the top flight.


 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 15 Aug 20 2.49pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Like you say he's nearly 28 and at 120k a week plus fee will be seen as too much of punt particularly for those who have a wage structure.

In my 45 years of watching (albeit on and off) he has to go down as the best. Been the difference between league one and seven years in the Premier League and an FA Cup final.

The game is faster and technically superior (in my opinion by some distance) to when we were previously yo-yoing in and out of the top flight.


He didn't play for us in the first season, regarded as the most difficult, he was playing for Cardiff, who got relegated.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 15 Aug 20 2.54pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

He didn't play for us in the first season, regarded as the most difficult, he was playing for Cardiff, who got relegated.

I was aware of that but still stand by it bearing in mind what he did to get us promoted. Without him we'd probably be league one by now. I think he's been voted our player of the season three times in the Premier League.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 15 Aug 20 6.24pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

it really is time to move on...

 


This was once a quality forum....

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View HesHereHesThere's Profile HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 15 Aug 20 7.42pm Send a Private Message to HesHereHesThere Add HesHereHesThere as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

it really is time to move on...

Yep, defo...it was actually last season he needed to go tbh.

 

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 15 Aug 20 7.47pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


People really do exaggerate Zaha he has never been outstanding.

Looks like their is a pattern with him people many years ago going on about attitude and excuses made yet its showing again it really does appear to be an issue the problem is he has a** kissers all around him some one needs to put him straight which I expect it too late now at his age.

This guy is 28 he really hasn't shown much at Palace he should be a super star if he is that good as the claims by fans plus pundits yet he's not now I know again excuses will be made but again top players don't use them and are intelligent enough to read whats going on in games taking advantage of it he never does any of this.

I would say this is why he would never make it in big team that is the difference you can have all the talent but if you cant use it or know how to use it its useless plus having poor attitude doesn't help.

This guy after what happened with his failed move should of hit the ground running to really show the other teams what they missed out yet look what we got he he was awful should of not even been selected to play from the start.

We will be lucky to get 30m for this guy

A pretty grumpy post!

 

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