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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 25 Jul 20 1.44pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I am quite happy for them to be guilty of manslaughter as murder implies premeditation. In fact they can be guilty of being a shopping trolley for all I care what matters is the sentence they get.

There are always degrees of any crime, a single punch in a bar is not the same as dragging a man for a mile in a speeding car.

I doubt it will happen but they should get 20 years.

There doesn't seem to be much by way of mitigation.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 26 Jul 20 5.44am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I am quite happy for them to be guilty of manslaughter as murder implies premeditation. In fact they can be guilty of being a shopping trolley for all I care what matters is the sentence they get.

There are always degrees of any crime, a single punch in a bar is not the same as dragging a man for a mile in a speeding car.

I doubt it will happen but they should get 20 years.


I can't think of a worse way to die, so it's unfortunate that how it occurred allowed for a degree of plausible deniability on their part.

Edited by BlueJay (26 Jul 2020 3.38pm)

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 26 Jul 20 7.53am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

You can get life imprisonment for manslaughter so it will come down to the bravery of the Judge.
Let us hope he is fearless on Monday!

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Jul 20 12.14pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

You can get life imprisonment for manslaughter so it will come down to the bravery of the Judge.
Let us hope he is fearless on Monday!

The cops will be remembering the performance of this judge. And they will all be seeing him many times in the future.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Jul 20 12.23pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

The cops will be remembering the performance of this judge. And they will all be seeing him many times in the future.

I hope the cops have some friends amongst the Prison Wardens.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Jul 20 1.11pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I hope the cops have some friends amongst the Prison Wardens.

I suspect travellers arenít particularly well liked amongst inmates. Although it was a Police Officer, the circumstances were horrendous, hope they enjoy the stay

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Jul 20 1.24pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i expect that in the prison, these travellers will almost get as much 'special treatment' as did Tommy Robinson.

 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Elm Guest House 26 Jul 20 1.46pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

You can get life imprisonment for manslaughter so it will come down to the bravery of the Judge.
Let us hope he is fearless on Monday!

Yep. Life is available as a sentence for manslaughter.

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 26 Jul 20 2.08pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Yep. Life is available as a sentence for manslaughter.

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Hardly ever imposed and reading that link it says the average ďlifeĒ sentence is 15 years. Iíve never been too sure how the two concepts of life and a fixed period can be reconciled.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Jul 20 2.13pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

to turn on a master electrical mains switch downstairs, and unknowingly kill an electrician who was working upstairs...... maybe that is manslaughter.


to deliberately drive a mile with a man screaming for his life while entangled in your vehicle is a deliberate killing.


Lock them up. Throw away the key.

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 26 Jul 20 3.34pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Yep. Life is available as a sentence for manslaughter.

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Interesting. I can in part understand the manslaughter conviction due to how unusual the case was in some respects. Given the severity of what happened though they should be given the maximum sentence. That and the fact that they really don't seem to care about their crime or the impact of it.

 

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

to turn on a master electrical mains switch downstairs, and unknowingly kill an electrician who was working upstairs...... maybe that is manslaughter.


to deliberately drive a mile with a man screaming for his life while entangled in your vehicle is a deliberate killing.


Lock them up. Throw away the key.

No it isn't unless you grab the copper and tie him to the car first.

Correct verdict.

Life would be about right with 12 to 15 year tariffs.

It would be the right justice in a civilised country. And yes before you ask if I was his missus I would love to be served my favourite meal while watching them all being slowly roasted alive. Which is precisely why we have our objective system in place.

 

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