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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 11 Aug 20 3.45pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

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again, I don't think distinguishing people on skin colour is helpful. Ever.

Yes, $hIt happened, but when you tear down slave traders statues, the response of putting up other statues bases on skin-colour is not productive.

Just my opinion. I think it's divisive. People are people.

A statue highlighting 'differences' is not helpful, IMHO

and it is obvious he is mixed-race,....

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (11 Aug 2020 3.47pm)

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 11 Aug 20 3.52pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

How many posts before this thread become 'locked' ?

I reckon about 3,...

 


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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

BBC website

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again, I don't think distinguishing people on skin colour is helpful. Ever.

Yes, $hIt happened, but when you tear down slave traders statues, the response of putting up other statues bases on skin-colour is not productive.

Just my opinion. I think it's divisive. People are people.

A statue highlighting 'differences' is not helpful, IMHO

and it is obvious he is mixed-race,....

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (11 Aug 2020 3.47pm)

Getting a statue because you are Black?

People's inability to see the irony in this stuff is starting to become funny. No satire could do it justice.
The gutless pandering to the witless.

 

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He maybe important to the fans of Argyle but to the rest of us he was a mediocre player in the lower leagues.

If they want to spend their money I don't care just don't ask the taxpayer.

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

He maybe important to the fans of Argyle but to the rest of us he was a mediocre player in the lower leagues.

If they want to spend their money I don't care just don't ask the taxpayer.

Private individuals can do what they like within the law, that isn't the point.
The point is the absurd doublethink of condemning judging people by the colour of their skin and then highlighting someone because of the colour of their skin.

It is bonkers and the tip of the iceberg of hypocrisy and double standards that are being served up to us on a daily basis.

 

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Walter Tull, the first black officer in the British army, to feature on £5 coin

Tull, also one of Britain’s first black footballers, was killed in France in March 1918 after heroic war service.

I can't see why John Leslie is having a statue for being a long-serving footballer for the Argyle really unless there is more to it.

Tull, however, definitely, just before he was killed the Army were refusing to have (n word) as officers.

Never been recognised for a military cross no-one can find out why.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 11 Aug 20 5.44pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Walter Tull, the first black officer in the British army, to feature on £5 coin

Tull, also one of Britain’s first black footballers, was killed in France in March 1918 after heroic war service.

I can't see why John Leslie is having a statue for being a long-serving footballer for the Argyle really unless there is more to it.

I do hope not!

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Walter Tull, the first black officer in the British army, to feature on £5 coin

Tull, also one of Britain’s first black footballers, was killed in France in March 1918 after heroic war service.

I can't see why John Leslie is having a statue for being a long-serving footballer for the Argyle really unless there is more to it.

Tull, however, definitely, just before he was killed the Army were refusing to have (n word) as officers.

Never been recognised for a military cross no-one can find out why.

Fair enough, a £5 coin? I didn't know they existed is it a souvenir type thing or one that will go into general circulation.

 


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Originally posted by steeleye20

Walter Tull, the first black officer in the British army, to feature on £5 coin

Tull, also one of Britain’s first black footballers, was killed in France in March 1918 after heroic war service.

I can't see why John Leslie is having a statue for being a long-serving footballer for the Argyle really unless there is more to it.

Tull, however, definitely, just before he was killed the Army were refusing to have (n word) as officers.

Never been recognised for a military cross no-one can find out why.


He does have/had a statue/bust outside Sixfields(NTFC) as well as having a road named after him in the surrounding area to where the 'Cobblers'& 'Saints' play

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

He maybe important to the fans of Argyle but to the rest of us he was a mediocre player in the lower leagues.

If they want to spend their money I don't care just don't ask the taxpayer.


Sums it up for me really. If they gain the relevant planning permission and fund it then so what? I agree that it all does seem a little 'box-ticking' but past caring really. Not my team, not my culture and I don't have to pay for it. C'est la vie.

 


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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

and it is obvious he is mixed-race....


Do we want to stick close to the facts ?

Let's look at the data.

What proportion of these have a white mother ? The BBC would like you to believe it's 50% of these players. All nice and balanced and equitable.

It's difficult when the truth gets in the way of an idyllic equitable PC narrative.

Will they be making an anglo-oriental footballer statue ? What probability he has a white dad ? 80% ? 90% ?

Or would he be more likely to work the stock market than being a footballer ?

How about a statue to people of disability ? If we want to be all inclusive.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (11 Aug 2020 7.32pm)

 


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A statue for the sake of having a statue.
No one knew this guy until somone went hunting for him. It's actually funny how people are so transparent

 

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