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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Sep 20 3.58pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Bit funny when it happens to spurs though

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View dg1937's Profile dg1937 Flag 27 Sep 20 4.05pm Send a Private Message to dg1937 Add dg1937 as a friend

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Can you imagine next week - several clubs send their defenders out with no sleeves to put their arms through on their shirts, the defenders arms being hidden inside the main body of the shirts....

I know that was tongue in cheek but have you ever tried running or jumping with your arms tied to your sides. No, there is only one solution - amputation.

The penalty decision against Spurs just now was even more ridiculous (but very funny, obviously).

 

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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 27 Sep 20 7.51pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Bad goalkeeping for their first and a joke of a rule for their second.
Could easily be on 7, even 9 points and top of the league.
The style of attacking play looks the best we’ve seen in ages, what are the chances it is back to the same boring s*it by the time we are allowed back in the ground.
Really good start to the season.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Sep 20 9.03pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Watching yesterday made me realise how ridiculous this empty stadium issue is. I don’t enjoy watching on telly. Yet there is NO sign of fans coming back, none at all. I don’t want 2000 I mean full stadiums.

Also made me realise what a “squealer” Richarlison is

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 27 Sep 20 9.29pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by The_postman

Is the wrong answer. A deflection off a defender does not play the attacker onside. It has to be a deliberate play by the defender, e.g. an attempted pass. This is the official rule

Offside Law 11 2.

Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

•&#8194; interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or

•&#8194; interfering with an opponent by: &#8194;

preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or

clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or &#8194;

• making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

or

•&#8194; gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has: &#8194;

rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar, match official or an opponent&#8194;


Richarlison didn't do ANY of the things mentioned in the rule because he NEVER touched the ball, NOR did he make any move that falls foul of the rule. Consequently, he couldn't be penalized for being in an offside position when the ball hit Ward.

Edited by doombear (27 Sep 2020 9.35pm)

 

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jeeagles Flag 28 Sep 20 8.28am

Originally posted by The_postman

Is the wrong answer. A deflection off a defender does not play the attacker onside. It has to be a deliberate play by the defender, e.g. an attempted pass. This is the official rule

Offside Law 11 2.

Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

•&#8194; interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or

•&#8194; interfering with an opponent by: &#8194;

preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or

clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or &#8194;

• making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

or

•&#8194; gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has: &#8194;

rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar, match official or an opponent&#8194;

Thanks, I'm glad people are now checking the rules on the FA's website. Although for handball, I couldn't find the list of interpretations that the TV kept showing at the weekend. I have a feeling that they might be examples of what is a handball, but the rule says making the body unnaturally big. It doesn't say in an unnatural position.

The offside play is only penalised when they come involved in active play. So it's still a handball first. Although, I thought the old offside rule was better when you either were, or weren't offside.

This is an example of how they've tried to rewrite the law to cover different scenario's and screwed it all up.

Taking out interpretation and making hard and fast rules is harsh, but it's the only way to apply them. Refereeing decisions should be almost robotic.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 28 Sep 20 8.40am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Casual

Bad goalkeeping for their first and a joke of a rule for their second.
Could easily be on 7, even 9 points and top of the league.
The style of attacking play looks the best we’ve seen in ages, what are the chances it is back to the same boring s*it by the time we are allowed back in the ground.
Really good start to the season.

Do you mean, the tactics that have kept us us in the PL for the last three years with a mediocre squad thanks to a great manager?

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 28 Sep 20 8.51am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Very unlucky not to get at least a point from the game. Iv criticised Townsend a lot over the last 2 years but he has been brilliant in the 3 games so far. I was very impressed with Eze Saturday, especially the fact that he didn’t forget his defensive duties.

For me one of the major reasons we are playing better is Kouyate at centre half. He has got to stay in that position. His pace is a major reason we are able to pitch up the pitch further and not get caught on the break and he has been immense.

Also I think Mr Ayew is on borrowed time as a starter. He works very hard as always but he needs to be swapped for a goal scorer for us to push on.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 28 Sep 20 9.23am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Very unlucky not to get at least a point from the game. Iv criticised Townsend a lot over the last 2 years but he has been brilliant in the 3 games so far. I was very impressed with Eze Saturday, especially the fact that he didn’t forget his defensive duties.

For me one of the major reasons we are playing better is Kouyate at centre half. He has got to stay in that position. His pace is a major reason we are able to pitch up the pitch further and not get caught on the break and he has been immense.

Also I think Mr Ayew is on borrowed time as a starter. He works very hard as always but he needs to be swapped for a goal scorer for us to push on.

Fully agree with these comments, sadly I think we have to find a replacement for Joe Ward as well, great servant but his distribution from possession is very poor, good blocker but just cannot pass the ball accurately which is vital for link up play from the attacking full backs!

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 28 Sep 20 9.25am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Very unlucky not to get at least a point from the game. Iv criticised Townsend a lot over the last 2 years but he has been brilliant in the 3 games so far. I was very impressed with Eze Saturday, especially the fact that he didn’t forget his defensive duties.

For me one of the major reasons we are playing better is Kouyate at centre half. He has got to stay in that position. His pace is a major reason we are able to pitch up the pitch further and not get caught on the break and he has been immense.

Also I think Mr Ayew is on borrowed time as a starter. He works very hard as always but he needs to be swapped for a goal scorer for us to push on.

I agree with you on all but the final point. Our ability to play 442, even against (arguably) better teams is that Ayew works hard defensively and will drop in to make a 5-man midfield when necessary (he did this effectively on Saturday dropping in to mark Allan). I'm not sure Batshuayi is willing or able to offer that, although possibly Zaha could. One caveat on that is that unlike most of the team, Ayew did seem to look better in a more defensive 433. Despite our strong start our decision making around the 18-yard box is still not quite good enough yet. Once Wilf and Eze get some more games together though I think that will change.

 

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View rollercoaster's Profile rollercoaster Flag Cornwall 28 Sep 20 1.52pm Send a Private Message to rollercoaster Add rollercoaster as a friend

I agree that Eze looked very comfortable on the ball. However, for me, given how we like to play, he needs to take more risks and move the ball a lot quicker. Whilst he looks like he will be a really good player I think in the game against Everton he was one of the reasons we didn't make any clear cut chances second half.

He looked at his best when he ran at the Everton defence but his pass at the end was too slow and got cut out.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 28 Sep 20 2.10pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by rollercoaster

I agree that Eze looked very comfortable on the ball. However, for me, given how we like to play, he needs to take more risks and move the ball a lot quicker. Whilst he looks like he will be a really good player I think in the game against Everton he was one of the reasons we didn't make any clear cut chances second half.

He looked at his best when he ran at the Everton defence but his pass at the end was too slow and got cut out.


He's still adjusting to the PL. He comes across as a bright lad and I'm confident he'll learn quickly and get better and better.

 

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