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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 29 Sep 20 9.52am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Palace in the Blood

i think the tribunal may wait until he has recovered (or not) before deciding Fee

Not sure how that happens. Itís a bit like saying letís wait until he is the worlds best (or worst) RB before valuing him. His value should be that of a young player in a defensive position with promise. If he ends up being a crock then more the fool us for buying him but similarly we should get full benefit for taking the risk if he turns into a world beater.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 29 Sep 20 11.29am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

IMO - FWIW - Joel Ward if he plays all season the player ratings would likely be lowest 5 / highest 8 - (not getting into how many performances were 5 / how many were 6 etc etc) this then that would indicate that his reasonable season average performance would likely be around 6.5 - 7 - which isnt bad for a club our size / place in the league.
So to replace him & bring in a specialist defender who would likely return an average score of say 7.5 would cost ?
For a position where we are not crying out for an upgrade ( other than for injuries which pretty much applies to the whole defensive lineup - i.e we have more pressing needs / places to spend our transfer budget)

 

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View AppleSource's Profile AppleSource Flag Tel Aviv 18 Oct 20 4.32pm Send a Private Message to AppleSource Add AppleSource as a friend

A decent performance by Ward against Brighton, punctuated by a common lapse, leading to their equalizer.

Itís becoming quite tedious to blame such occurrences on the occupational hazard of most footballers.

 

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View cROYdonrogers's Profile cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 17 Dec 20 8.13am Send a Private Message to cROYdonrogers Add cROYdonrogers as a friend

Refreshing this one. Was wondering how he would look last night after a period out. Thought he was decent. Perhaps we do need to improve in that position, but I'm thinking on balance him over Clyne. He's stronger than Clyne and I'm surprised to say better going forward.
Keep Clyne 'till end of season-if he'll stay-hopefully by then Ferguson will have found the exit door to the treatment room.

 

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View Plumpton eagle's Profile Plumpton eagle Flag East Sussex 17 Dec 20 8.19am Send a Private Message to Plumpton eagle Add Plumpton eagle as a friend

I thought Joel played well last night. He is also much stronger in the air than Clyne. He certainly wasn't a weak link and most of their threatening play seemed to come down our left. i would be very happy for him to play again on Saturday.

 

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View beak's Profile beak Online Flag croydon 17 Dec 20 9.30am Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by Plumpton eagle

I thought Joel played well last night. He is also much stronger in the air than Clyne. He certainly wasn't a weak link and most of their threatening play seemed to come down our left. i would be very happy for him to play again on Saturday.

Yep !

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 17 Dec 20 10.25am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

I think it is safe to say we currently have competent cover in the right back position. Nothing thatís going to worry the international selectors but competent all the same.

 

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 17 Dec 20 12.28pm Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

did ok last night, so no worries at right back.

Bit concerned at PVA's positioning on the other side - often gets drawn into middle and is slow to get out to his winger, allowing crosses to come in unchallenged.

Both the goal last night and also the WBA were due to him being out of position.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Dec 20 12.43pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I thought Ward wasn't great but certainly OK for his first game back for a while. He looked tired but fair play to him for his effort. Have never questioned Ward for effort, the entire time he's been here. What a bargain and what a servant really.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 17 Dec 20 1.20pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

I loved it when he shoulder barged Benrahma and looked at him as if to say, ďwhat do you expect at this levelĒ.

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Inside IR35 17 Dec 20 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I thought Ward wasn't great but certainly OK for his first game back for a while. He looked tired but fair play to him for his effort. Have never questioned Ward for effort, the entire time he's been here. What a bargain and what a servant really.

A good, solid, generally dependable player. We've been fortunate to have him for all these years.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 17 Dec 20 1.42pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

For a mid table top flight side like us, Ward is fine. A good pro, good servant, and good value for money. Always has been, probably will be for some time to come.

If we unearth an outstanding prospect or land an amazing free transfer at right back then Ward can sit on the bench as cover, like he did when AWB broke through, and as he may do when (if?) Ferguson proves his fitness and quality. Otherwise, leave Ward in the side and certainly don't spend any money on a new right back when we need it spending elsewhere first.

If I was going to worry about either full back it would be PVA, who will never learn to defend competently, let alone well. I appreciate that he offsets defensive shoddiness with attacking impetus, but even after four years I'm still not convinced that the latter justifies the former, though he is great fun to watch so I'll let him off!

On that subject, you could argue that a defensive minded full back like Ward becomes even more essential if we do keep PVA beyond his current contract. Big clubs can have two attacking full backs flying forward at the same time, but not us. We need one full back to compensate for the other, and if we are to have another two or three years of PVA defying logic, risk, and probably his managers instructions to pop up at inside left/centre forward/christ only knows where, we will continue to need a right back who is comfortable tucking in and making a back three. Ward can do that, and we need someone like him to hold the fort whilst waiting for the Wandering Dutchman to return to port.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (17 Dec 2020 1.44pm)

 

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