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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


well it was you english that invaded scotland, wales and ireland and nicked all the land.

and now you are having second thoughts ? oh boo hoo.

your desire for English independence is hilarious considering all the places that needed fight to get their independence from you....

Canada, india, pakistan, israel, the US, ireland, australia, new zealand....

you sound like a longterm chain smoker whinging about the unfairness of having crocked lungs.

You are aware it was scotland that created the union not England aint you England didn't invade anywhere the United Kingdom did which was created my scotland so default its scotlands fault son. Plus as his pointed out england was repeatedly invaded my Scottish and Welsh and they lost its not like we just conquered it for no reason and only the USA fought for freedom rest it was given to and some are worse off since Zimbabwe an example.

Edited by Cpfc1861 (27 Sep 2020 1.36pm)

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 27 Sep 20 2.08pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Also out of the countries you listed none of them officially fought us for independence other than the US.


Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Sep 2020 12.38pm)

irish war of independence 1920.

The boer War

Ghandi & indian independence

the broken promises of Lawrence of Arabia

Calais

zimbabwe-Rhodesia

i cannot believe that the biggest bully on the block is now going....boo hoo poor me.

now Sterling , you called me a lefty.....i would prefer to be called a season ticket holder for the Amex. and anyway.......

English independence could be a good thing. Scotland and Ulster are poor, cold, and full of people who hate the english. And the welsh are not very warm to the english, nor are the French, Spanish nor really the Germans anymore.

English independence could mean a chance to deal with all the problems of multiculturalism in a mature and honest fashion.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Sep 2020 2.17pm)

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

irish war of independence 1920.

The boer War

Ghandi & indian independence

the broken promises of Lawrence of Arabia

Calais

zimbabwe-Rhodesia

i cannot believe that the biggest bully on the block is now going....boo hoo poor me.

now Sterling , you called me a lefty.....i would prefer to be called a season ticket holder for the Amex. and anyway.......

English independence could be a good thing. Scotland and Ulster are poor, cold, and full of people who hate the english. And the welsh are not very warm to the english, nor are the French, Spanish nor really the Germans anymore.

English independence could mean a chance to deal with all the problems of multiculturalism in a mature and honest fashion.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Sep 2020 2.17pm)

The problem with your post is the majority don't hate the English a very vocal minority do that's why they're all still in the union and ulster is very british in terms of identity.

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 27 Sep 20 2.34pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

Been drinking got me thinking can we absolve the union and rebuild hadrians wall and watch Scotland burn Sturgeon is starting to get on my tits do we really need this united kingdom s***e when really its England and Wales with Scotland poncing and some overtly delicate s*** in Northern Ireland that we don't need or want. Discuss just thought I'd throw it out there as an idea.

I would have nothing against your idea mate- i would vote for you if you stand on that issue alone!

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 Sep 20 2.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

irish war of independence 1920.

Was fought largely between the Irish themselves and didn't result in independence for Ireland but its division.

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

The boer War


Didn't result in independence and wasn't on your original list.

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Ghandi & indian independence

Wasn't a war and Britain gave India independence after WW2 broke us financially.....Which was part reason Ghandi was quite keen on Hitler.


Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the broken promises of Lawrence of Arabia

Not a proud moment for us....but those promises weren't Lawrence's fault nor was a conflict fought against us that resulted in independence. We gave up our middle eastern lands after WW2 because we were skint and our power and will for empire had diminished.

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Calais

zimbabwe-Rhodesia

?

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

i cannot believe that the biggest bully on the block is now going....boo hoo poor me.

now Sterling , you called me a lefty.....i would prefer to be called a season ticket holder for the Amex. and anyway.......

Ok, fair enough, but these are lefty talking points and as such always deserve contesting because these are subjective areas.


Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

English independence could be a good thing. Scotland and Ulster are poor, cold, and full of people who hate the english. And the welsh are not very warm to the english, nor are the French, Spanish nor really the Germans anymore.

English independence could mean a chance to deal with all the problems of multiculturalism in a mature and honest fashion.

That's more like it sir!

The English has been downgraded while all the other home nations were given their own parliament with the excuse that the 'houses of parliament' was enough for the English....when other home nationals get to vote on English laws...and not only that we have non English prime ministers.

So I also have no issues with English independence....and also with the English regaining control back of their own cities.


Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Sep 2020 2.55pm)

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 27 Sep 20 3.07pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I must admit I'm surprised to read this post from you.

Firstly there was no 'Scotland' or Wales existing as an independent country from England back then. These lands were all in play.....So you are guilty of historical revisionism here.

The English also won wars against invading armies looking to take the country...which included the Scottish I might add.

You appear to attack the English for winning wars rather than losing them.

Also out of the countries you listed none of them officially fought us for independence other than the US.

Also you seem to think it legitimate that these countries gained independence yet don't think it legitimate for the English because of what elites did hundreds of years ago?

Are you a leftist now?

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Sep 2020 12.38pm)


I was also suprised at his post , it"s the strange thing about this site but makes it interesting, Rudi
also suprises me on his views - especially on covid, i"m never sure if he"s siding with the left or the right!

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

I was also suprised at his post , it"s the strange thing about this site but makes it interesting, Rudi
also suprises me on his views - especially on covid, i"m never sure if he"s siding with the left or the right!

If you hang around long enough on the site you'll find me declaring for the communists and you declaring for the alt right!

 

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Originally posted by Cpfc1861

The problem with your post is the majority don't hate the English a very vocal minority do that's why they're all still in the union and ulster is very british in terms of identity.

Ulster is British. Not English.

you might say it is British and irish at the same time. Much as Wales is British and Welsh. Neither will ever be English.

is it forbidden to say 'England for the English'' anymore ?

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If you hang around long enough on the site you'll find me declaring for the communists and you declaring for the alt right!

Ha, you never know mate!

 

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how would the prospect of English independence sit with Tooting's Finest Mayor....Sadiq Khan ?

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

how would the prospect of English independence sit with Tooting's Finest Mayor....Sadiq Khan ?

Not sure who you"re asking that to , but if it"s me i would say who gives a fcuk about that useless cnut!

 

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

how would the prospect of English independence sit with Tooting's Finest Mayor....Sadiq Khan ?

Who knows? But I will pay for a first class ticket to Scotland for him.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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