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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 01 Oct 20 11.09pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this.

Of The 4 handball decisions; Lindlehoff, Maupay Ward and Dier. I would say Diers one the only one where it could have actually been a penalty. Having your back to the ball is not a defence. Just because you cannot see the ball, does not stop you from intentionally putting your body in a position where handling the ball is likely. Same with this notion that the proximity should be taken into account. No! If I were to run at you arms streched, like a goalkeeper, and if you kicked it when I was 'only' one metre away, then that's handball.
There is an argument when looking at Diers jump that he intentionally made his body bigger by using his arms in an attempt to stop the ball getting past him. This is regardless of where he was looking or facing at the time.
This is the issue - judging intent. personally I think that Diers was unintentional, but there is definitely a case for unnatural arm position, and definitely a case for arm-to-ball movement.

I disagree. Maupay’s was the most obvious one as he leads with his arm above his head in the direction of the ball. This would’ve given in any season.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Online Flag CR3 02 Oct 20 7.36am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Hand to ball rather than ball to hand is the fairest definition of handball and causes the least controversy. That should apply on the entire pitch for equity. The only time this should be overturned is if a team gets a clear advantage from an accidental handball and then an indirect free kick should be awarded.

 

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Originally posted by eritheagle

I disagree. Maupay’s was the most obvious one as he leads with his arm above his head in the direction of the ball. This would’ve given in any season.

yeah, that's a fair point.
I guess my point was that too many people are using the "he's not even looking at the ball" defence, which should be taken into account, but does not mean that an offence wasn't committed.

 

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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Thank feck you are not a referee. You’re not are you?

haha no. couldn't be - I don't agree with enough Of the rules !

 

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