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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Online Flag 04 Oct 20 8.47am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Meyer was on the bench by default because there was no one else to sit on it. When a couple of players come back from injury he will never be seen again.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 04 Oct 20 9.04am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46

I’m not suggesting ‘Roy out’ but at 73 and with his contract due to expire at the end of the season, now might be a good time to start the transition. At least, that way, the new man could learn from him, get to know the players and both have a Jan window to consider things.
Tactically yesterday, bringing on like for like wasn’t, in my view, going to change anything.
And yeah, hindsight is easy, but I think fans are entitled to feel frustrated after a 4-0 defeat, especially following a win to Southampton, a great performance against Utd and an unlucky one against Everton.
What would I have done? God knows, you’re right on the depth so that may show the club something.

Edited by Helmet46 (04 Oct 2020 8.39am)

Apart from possibly when Dougie rejoined Palace as assistant manager, I can't recall any clubs doing this. And I'm pretty sure the ' Roy Out ' brigade wouldn't want someone learning from him !

As for the game yesterday, we looked comfortable until Sakho intervened. Both penalties I felt were soft, especially the first one, and they obviously made the scoreline worse than it might have been.

Even though I am pro Hodgson, I thought his use of subs yesterday was pointless. Introducing Benteke for an ineffective Ayew would have posed more questions to Chelsea than merely exchanging midfield players.

We tend to have one of this type of performance from time to time - let's hope it's out of the players system now for another few months.

Edited by NEILLO (04 Oct 2020 9.05am)

 


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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 04 Oct 20 9.31am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

Please let’s be honest Chelsea were the better team by far, we were awful in every department. Desperately in need of investment in the team not one shot on goal!,

..and the reason we had hardly no movement in their half of the pitch is because the rare times we actually tried they did a professional job on fouling us, all the very top players do it and in a way to keep the refs at bay, only late on after ridiculous amounts of stopping us this way did the ref start booking them ...way too late.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 04 Oct 20 9.34am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

It is going to be hard to take a weed mullering but I reckon it's coming if we play like that.

Brighton players are Brighton players, Chelsea have huge tremendous stars who know how to cheat.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 04 Oct 20 9.36am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46

But doesn’t that sum up Roy’s tactics perfectly? We ‘defended well’ - nothing at all about attacking. Substitutes just replace like with like, doesn’t change it up, vary the tactics, change gear. I cannot recall the Chelsea GK having a save to make really.
Personally I’d get Eddie Howe in to work alongside him and take full control next season.

I think Eze was fouled about ten times when running forwards, who's fault was that?

 

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View PZ Eagle's Profile PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 04 Oct 20 9.50am Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Oh the clowns are out again.

Roy out! Where’s the attacking substitutions??

We played basically the same starting 11 as against United but included Eze so we were even more attacking. We got battered because Chelsea are much better than us and mainly because of shocking defending. Roy did not send that team out to play any differently than against United ?

So who’s at fault?

Have a look at our bench and tell me where these amazing attacking substitutes were sitting?

At last somebody on this thread with a bit of realism.

 


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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 04 Oct 20 9.54am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

The only reason we looked bad and lost this game is because of one defender and Chelsea's game plan of stopping us, all the other criticism and moaning is a total waste of time, just rewatch the full game and then inform me otherwise, cannot understand why everyone wants to blame our whole squad.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 04 Oct 20 9.59am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Oh the clowns are out again.

Roy out! Where’s the attacking substitutions??

We played basically the same starting 11 as against United but included Eze so we were even more attacking. We got battered because Chelsea are much better than us and mainly because of shocking defending. Roy did not send that team out to play any differently than against United ?

So who’s at fault?

Have a look at our bench and tell me where these amazing attacking substitutes were sitting?

All their goals were our mistakes too, they had reasonable chances but they still if on target had to beat our solid keeper.
Remove our four cock ups and we played a good defending game sounds ridiculous I know but we did defend well.

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Caterham 04 Oct 20 10.08am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

The only reason we looked bad and lost this game is because of one defender and Chelsea's game plan of stopping us, all the other criticism and moaning is a total waste of time, just rewatch the full game and then inform me otherwise, cannot understand why everyone wants to blame our whole squad.

I think it’s valid to review and discuss options. A good debate and, for me, I’m not a fan of overly negative football. BUT I do like life in the EPL and that is my struggle - balancing one with the other.
Frank did get his tactics spot on and having spent over £200m you would expect his team to gel. Agree one penalty was a joke. Defensive errors also cost us. Reckon Sakho will struggle now.
Loved Eze - he’ll be class.
The other thing I’d like to see is Banks on the bench and maybe Matthew’s. I know they’re young but worth a few minutes I’d say. You never know and I’m liking the look of Mitchell more and more.
So it’s not all negative but my concern with Roy and the reason I’d like to see a transition is once the first managerial sacking happens - Eddie Howe is gone, in my view. My biggest worry is they’ll go for a simple option and instal Freedman - which I’d hate!

Edited by Helmet46 (04 Oct 2020 10.10am)

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 04 Oct 20 10.49am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

..and the reason we had hardly no movement in their half of the pitch is because the rare times we actually tried they did a professional job on fouling us, all the very top players do it and in a way to keep the refs at bay, only late on after ridiculous amounts of stopping us this way did the ref start booking them ...way too late.

our performance was poor no excuses!

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Oct 20 11.28am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Oh the clowns are out again.

Roy out! Where’s the attacking substitutions??

We played basically the same starting 11 as against United but included Eze so we were even more attacking. We got battered because Chelsea are much better than us and mainly because of shocking defending. Roy did not send that team out to play any differently than against United ?

So who’s at fault?

Have a look at our bench and tell me where these amazing attacking substitutes were sitting?


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It is coming to a new low when fans want to sack the manager because we lose to one of the richest clubs in the world away from home.
The scoreline was the result of two dodgy penalties and the mistakes of one player.

Until we reach the Eldorado of a higher status like Chelsea, we will always be looking to average a point a game and stay up.
If some fans are unhappy now then god knows what it will be like when Zaha goes.
Right now, a couple more signings will hopefully give us more going forward.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2020 11.31am)

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


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It is coming to a new low when fans want to sack the manager because we lose to one of the richest clubs in the world away from home.
The scoreline was the result of two dodgy penalties and the mistakes of one player.

Until we reach the Eldorado of a higher status like Chelsea, we will always be looking to average a point a game and stay up.
If some fans are unhappy now then god knows what it will be like when Zaha goes.
Right now, a couple more signings will hopefully give us more going forward.

Yes, I fully agree with your comments, the Manager can prepare a team for a game but how they play and execute the plan is down to them as individuals on the day. Yesterday you would not have thought that it was basically the same players from a week ago , with the exception of Townsend, yesterday there play was well below par, even Zaha was slipping back to his end of last season form. I am a great fan of Roy and grateful for what he has done with this modest squad over the last three years, however, I can also understand why some fans are frustrated especially because yesterday we did not have one shot on target. let's hope the next game is different but we will still have to be at our best to beat a modest Brighton side and that requires us to score goals!

 

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