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Women should learn their f@cking place.

Kitchen and bedroom

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 04 Oct 20 9.58pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Matov, domestic violence isn't a feminist issue, many males suffer it.

A tiny percentage. When was the last time a man was murdered by an abusive wife? I am not saying that women on man domestic violence does not occur but I am saying that a man has many, many more options when it comes to either fighting back or making the decision to move on.

And for me, domestic violence and its massive disproportionately impact on women is the most pressing feminist issue of all time. When I see equal numbers of men being murdered by their wives/partners then I will accept that perhaps this is more a societal issue than one of gender.

Men need to face up to being proper men and if they let a woman make their lives a misery then they need to grow a pair pretty quickly. Men have choices that women do not.

 

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Originally posted by Matov

A tiny percentage. When was the last time a man was murdered by an abusive wife? I am not saying that women on man domestic violence does not occur but I am saying that a man has many, many more options when it comes to either fighting back or making the decision to move on.

And for me, domestic violence and its massive disproportionately impact on women is the most pressing feminist issue of all time. When I see equal numbers of men being murdered by their wives/partners then I will accept that perhaps this is more a societal issue than one of gender.

Men need to face up to being proper men and if they let a woman make their lives a misery then they need to grow a pair pretty quickly.
Men have choices that women do not.

It really is a completely different argument. Murder is illegal. There is no gender difference. The same for assault and mental abuse.

If we ever see equal numbers of men murdered by their wives/partners as women, then we are truely in a bad place. That men kill more wives/partners is only a reflection of how many murders are committed by men overall.

The emboldened sentence is the only thing that feminists should have an issue with.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 Oct 20 10.12pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

A tiny percentage. When was the last time a man was murdered by an abusive wife? I am not saying that women on man domestic violence does not occur


did Caroline Flack clunk her sleeping boyfriend over the head with a heavy marble lamp ? bloodshed everywhere.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 04 Oct 20 10.31pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


did Caroline Flack clunk her sleeping boyfriend over the head with a heavy marble lamp ? bloodshed everywhere.

And that adds what to the debate? I would never deny that woman are not capable of dishing out domestic abuse but the sheer volume of it occuring the other way around is what makes it stand out.

In the UK an average of 2 women per week are killed as a result of domestic violence compared to around 30 men per year. Now that figure surprised me because I assume it would be higher (willing to concede that) but the reality is still a massively disproportionate number.

If it was 50-50 then I might be able to accept that it was not a feminist issue but until then, no.

And it would be interesting to find out how many of those men were abusers themselves, with their deaths being a case of self-protection.

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 04 Oct 20 10.36pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

And that adds what to the debate? I would never deny that woman are not capable of dishing out domestic abuse but the sheer volume of it occuring the other way around is what makes it stand out.

In the UK an average of 2 women per week are killed as a result of domestic violence compared to around 30 men per year. Now that figure surprised me because I assume it would be higher (willing to concede that) but the reality is still a massively disproportionate number.

If it was 50-50 then I might be able to accept that it was not a feminist issue but until then, no.

And it would be interesting to find out how many of those men were abusers themselves, with their deaths being a case of self-protection.

104-30 is less than a quater. What is the average of murders by men/women? Also the self protection works both ways, with many men not admitting to it because of shame. Or as you put it, the "need to man up".

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Oct 20 2.26pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

And that adds what to the debate? I would never deny that woman are not capable of dishing out domestic abuse but the sheer volume of it occuring the other way around is what makes it stand out.

In the UK an average of 2 women per week are killed as a result of domestic violence compared to around 30 men per year. Now that figure surprised me because I assume it would be higher (willing to concede that) but the reality is still a massively disproportionate number.

If it was 50-50 then I might be able to accept that it was not a feminist issue but until then, no.

And it would be interesting to find out how many of those men were abusers themselves, with their deaths being a case of self-protection.

Well said. While we should definitely make room for men to open up when attacked by women - and it should be taken seriously - the power disparity between men and women will absolutely always mean that we should have a focus on protecting women in situations of domestic violence, because disproportionately they will be coming out of the situation with the wounds that do not heal, or worse.

 

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'The only time a woman should be allowed out - is to get the coal in'.

Try telling them that, Obadiah.

They won't believe you.


 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag Kent 07 Oct 20 3.49pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Women should learn their f@cking place.

Kitchen and bedroom

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Oct 20 4.03pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Well said. While we should definitely make room for men to open up when attacked by women - and it should be taken seriously - the power disparity between men and women will absolutely always mean that we should have a focus on protecting women in situations of domestic violence, because disproportionately they will be coming out of the situation with the wounds that do not heal, or worse.

a very naive posting from you, if i may say. Muscle power is irrelevant. The woman in the link is from our neck of the woods.

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Oct 20 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

a very naive posting from you, if i may say. Muscle power is irrelevant. The woman in the link is from our neck of the woods.

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Cherry Lambrini? Iíll have a few pints of that. What is it?

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Cherry Lambrini? Iíll have a few pints of that. What is it?

Itís drunk by people with dignerty.

 

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