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View Dancer Cat's Profile Dancer Cat Flag Farnborough 30 Jan 21 11.02am Send a Private Message to Dancer Cat Add Dancer Cat as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I am reminded of the saying "Between the devil and the deep blue sea".
Both a "Goodbye" before the end of the season and a relegation will be very distressing for Mr Hodgson.
It could be argued that all the time there is "Daylight" there is no need to upset the applecart.


Edited by Willo (29 Jan 2021 11.52pm)

I actually think there's a strategy which Parish could use which suits all parties (the same one Arsenal could have used with Wenger & didn't).

Publically announce now that Hodgson's contract will NOT be extended & that his last game as manager Palace WILL be the last game of the current season. Therefore Palace are NOW staring their search for their next manager, meanwhile we (Palace) will use the rest of the season to pay tribute to Roy and any member of the playing squad demonstrably failing to support Roy will not be considered for next season's squad.

Putting this out in the public domain appeases those who want him gone (the see the light at the end of the tunnel) AND those who feel he deserves a reasonable send off - you just know that if this was announced publically, SKY et al would have a field day about "Roy's great career" etc so he (Roy) I'm sure would garner alot of positive press (at a time he needs it).


 

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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 30 Jan 21 11.13am Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Significant funds will only be available when new owners take over and that will only ever happen when Mr Parish is willing to relinquish his shareholding and management control and he has shown no signs of wanting to do that despite promising ten years ago that he was only here for the short term

He wont be able to it. He hasn't the money to own a PL team, but he cant admit it. I reckon there are plenty of far east, possibly Russian, even USA investors who would buy the club and invest for the future, but he is like the small businessman who has built up his firm and just cant let go..in the end they just get overtaken by those with a bit of vision and ambition.
The current state of play, Roy, no money for transfers, ageing squad - what is the future under Parrish?

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Jan 21 11.14am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Hopefully Xmas 2021.........

You’re not a Thunderbirds fan then?

 

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jeeagles Flag 30 Jan 21 11.17am

Originally posted by Painter

Arguably another manager could do better than Roy with this squad. The real issue is everything has gone stale over time, same manager, same players for too long.
Roy has done a great job with lack of investment in the squad compared to teams we are competing against, but we have reached end of the road.
Franck is the best option, bit of a gamble, but something new is needed. Howe had much more money invested in his team at Bournemouth, but still got them relegated.

Managers going stale isn't a unique problem. Only 4 premiership managers have been in the job longer than Roy. They are Wilder, Dyche, Pep, and Klopp. All for have delivered a significant amount of success to their clubs since they started.

Under Roy, we are stagnet, our league position and cup performance have declined. He's been lucky to have had the job for so long, had the board been a tad more ambitious he'd be gone by now. However, had the board been too ambitious we might have been in a situation like Watford so their is a balance.

It does seem there is a split in Roy's supporters, between the more sensible ones realising he is a short term stop gap, to the more idiotic romantic ones gushing of Mr Cwoydon Hodgson believing that some how the geriatric owl is the man to create a dynasty.

I'm quite sceptical of the run coming up, I think we've left it far too late and given him far too many chances. We'll play 4-4-2 against Wolves today for the 3rd time in a few months and lose again. Our only hope is to sucker punch them with an early goal or we are screwed.

We all want investment, but it has to be careful and sustainable given our relative income. A 73 year old isn't the leader a business will invest in, especially given his poor recent performance in the league and on transfers. That's just the way investment works.

But I've gone off on a rant again... all I meant to say that 3 and a half years is a very good innings for a premier league manager that hasn't had any major achievement.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 30 Jan 21 11.24am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Easy. We need 2 or 3 new players so Croydon Roy can stick then on the bench. If they're good and buy him a bottle of wine they may get introduced in the 89th minute when we are already 3-0 down. That's how to use the squad, Roy style.

Are you suggesting that our manager has had the pleasure of two to three new players to bring on to change things and not done so? Eze was the most recent new addition it is always going to take someone from a lower league a couple of weeks or so before being risked to face the sort of abuse Zaha receives in this league.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 30 Jan 21 11.27am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

Had a bad dream last night that we had lost our next six games and Roy was still not sacked as we moved into the bottom three without hope.

I dreamt that we won our next six and were up the arse of the top seven!

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 30 Jan 21 11.28am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

What is it with this sacking our manager, what exactly is going to change??

 

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jeeagles Flag 30 Jan 21 11.31am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

What is it with this sacking our manager, what exactly is going to change??

The 4-4-2 system for a start.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 30 Jan 21 11.33am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

What is it with this sacking our manager, what exactly is going to change??

Well we obviously wont if your dream becomes reality. It's all about results as it is with all jobs.

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 30 Jan 21 11.37am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Feel it is not Roy the manager that is the problem, it is his system and the way he sticks to out-of-form players like Townsend, Benteke, Kouyate and Luka.

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 30 Jan 21 11.50am Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Feel it is not Roy the manager that is the problem, it is his system and the way he sticks to out-of-form players like Townsend, Benteke, Kouyate and Luka.

There are two problems, the manager and the 4 players you mention.

 


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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 30 Jan 21 12.36pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Managers going stale isn't a unique problem. Only 4 premiership managers have been in the job longer than Roy. They are Wilder, Dyche, Pep, and Klopp. All for have delivered a significant amount of success to their clubs since they started.

Under Roy, we are stagnet, our league position and cup performance have declined. He's been lucky to have had the job for so long, had the board been a tad more ambitious he'd be gone by now. However, had the board been too ambitious we might have been in a situation like Watford so their is a balance.

It does seem there is a split in Roy's supporters, between the more sensible ones realising he is a short term stop gap, to the more idiotic romantic ones gushing of Mr Cwoydon Hodgson believing that some how the geriatric owl is the man to create a dynasty.

I'm quite sceptical of the run coming up, I think we've left it far too late and given him far too many chances. We'll play 4-4-2 against Wolves today for the 3rd time in a few months and lose again. Our only hope is to sucker punch them with an early goal or we are screwed.

We all want investment, but it has to be careful and sustainable given our relative income. A 73 year old isn't the leader a business will invest in, especially given his poor recent performance in the league and on transfers. That's just the way investment works.

But I've gone off on a rant again... all I meant to say that 3 and a half years is a very good innings for a premier league manager that hasn't had any major achievement.

Ah, like we did against West Ham, good plan!

 

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