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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Dec 20 11.07am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

Now I have slept on that team performance yesterday and it wasn’t just that storm that kept me awake. I think Milo and Jimmy Mac are finished they are not box to box midfielders now, age has caught up with them.

The defence needs a complete make over and again age has caught up with them. We have younger players we need to start using them more often to take the burden off the older players. We know it takes time to rebuild an ageing squad, but we have got to start somewhere.This is starting to remind me of what happened to Stoke City, an established Premiership team full of ageing pros, lack of investment in the squad was their downfall, and now look at them.

The people at the top can see what is happening at Palace. The Americans if they are not willing to help, then please just leave, you have nothing to offer us to take us to the next level, it’s not like you haven’t had the time to do anything. We are just about keeping our heads above water, but sooner or later our luck will run out and we will be the next Stoke City...

They also got rid of Pulis. Because the fans weren't satisfied with merely staying in the Premier League, they demanded more exciting football. So they sacked the manager that kept them up...look what happened after that.

As for the American investment, they do seem to have become scapegoats in some people's eyes. But they were brought into the club by Steve Parish, and my perception is that they were willing to invest while leaving the day to day running to him. Is that condition a stumbling block to further investment either from Harris and Blitzer or any new investors ? I think it may well be the case.

 


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Cpfc1861 Flag 27 Dec 20 11.11am Send a Private Message to Cpfc1861 Add Cpfc1861 as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

They also got rid of Pulis. Because the fans weren't satisfied with merely staying in the Premier League, they demanded more exciting football. So they sacked the manager that kept them up...look what happened after that.

As for the American investment, they do seem to have become scapegoats in some people's eyes. But they were brought into the club by Steve Parish, and my perception is that they were willing to invest while leaving the day to day running to him. Is that condition a stumbling block to further investment either from Harris and Blitzer or any new investors ? I think it may well be the case.

Tony Pulis never went on losing runs like we are ffs. Its different we aint demanding Barcelona football we are demanding not losing by 10 goals in 2 games with 1 half against 10 men FFS

 

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Swindy Flag Bromley 27 Dec 20 11.12am Send a Private Message to Swindy Add Swindy as a friend

Not sure I agree with all the head in the sand stuff about 'getting enough points to stay up'.
Stoke City is a very good example of the complacency what may well do for our club. Yesterday's opponents are an excellent example of the level of investment needed to come back stronger after relegation.
We have had 8 seasons (the longest this club has ever enjoyed) now in the top division, making more money than the club has EVER made and with our players the highest-paid we have ever had.
This should have been long enough to attract a higher level of willing investment, unlike our American impediments, we are a London club after all.
Yet it seems after all this time that little if any progress has been made and the continuing complacency of Mr Parish, who follows in the tradition of other chairmen since the early 80s when we have been in the top division of trying to compete on the cheap which will only work for a while.
How many good windows have we really had ? Sanogo, Bamford, Adebiyor, Ferguson and all the ludicrous Holloway signings etc for example ?
We will no doubt again be outperformed by clubs like Fulham, WBA, brighton and Sheffield United in next month's window too.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 20 11.15am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

If we survive with Roy Hodgson at the helm, providing he wishes to continue, I suspect he will be with us next season if the current hierarchy is still in situ.

 

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Elphers40 Flag Sunny South Coast 27 Dec 20 11.16am Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

He sticks with the same players every week regardless of performance, is so slow to react or get on the front foot and barely makes a substitution before 70 minutes (when it’s too late for the subs to make a difference) and our narrow style of play (in particular attacking) is so predictable and easy to defend.

A couple of good results won’t change this and if we’re looking at things overall we should also take into account the run of defeats at the end of last season - this could be repeated. We have to look to the next five years now and Roy should not feature in it.

 

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MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 27 Dec 20 11.21am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

If we survive with Roy Hodgson at the helm, providing he wishes to continue, I suspect he will be with us next season if the current hierarchy is still in situ.

The grim reality unfortunately.

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Dec 20 11.23am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

Tony Pulis never went on losing runs like we are ffs. Its different we aint demanding Barcelona football we are demanding not losing by 10 goals in 2 games with 1 half against 10 men FFS

So what's your point ?

Losing runs is one thing, where you finish at the end of the season is another.We have just had 2 heavy defeats, but at the moment that's still 2 in a row and not a '' run ''.

Pulis and Hodgson both play cautious styles of football. Stoke fans got fed up with it. HOL is plastered with posts complaining about Hodgson's methods - can't you see the parallel ?

 


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southnorwoodhill Flag 27 Dec 20 11.25am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

If we survive with Roy Hodgson at the helm, providing he wishes to continue, I suspect he will be with us next season if the current hierarchy is still in situ.


This would suggest no successional planning for someone in his 70s on a one year contract. Is that any way to run a football club?

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 20 11.28am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill


This would suggest no successional planning for someone in his 70s on a one year contract. Is that any way to run a football club?

Just to set the record straight, my comments were based on what I suspect and not some information I have heard in the corridors of power or from those with club connections.

Edited by Willo (27 Dec 2020 11.31am)

 

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 27 Dec 20 11.31am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

They also got rid of Pulis. Because the fans weren't satisfied with merely staying in the Premier League, they demanded more exciting football. So they sacked the manager that kept them up...look what happened after that.

As for the American investment, they do seem to have become scapegoats in some people's eyes. But they were brought into the club by Steve Parish, and my perception is that they were willing to invest while leaving the day to day running to him. Is that condition a stumbling block to further investment either from Harris and Blitzer or any new investors ? I think it may well be the case.

This would be my interpretation as well.

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Dec 20 11.32am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill


This would suggest no successional planning for someone in his 70s on a one year contract. Is that any way to run a football club?

That put me in mind of the punchline to ' Top Rank ' by Derek and Clive

 


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AERO Flag 27 Dec 20 11.36am Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

We are in a tough position as a club We are an established premiership club .But no new ground/stand on horizon for years,an ageing squad,ageing manager,and apparently low transfer funds .Why ? Whats the plan if any ? Maybe the answer is to drop down a division and play youngsters and regroup as we are just treading water in this division.

 

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