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BM 29 Oct 20 8.09pm
We have loads of options at CB but how do they rank in order of ability and importance? Here’s my top 7... 1. Sakho 2. Tomkins 3. Kouyate 4. Dann 5. Cahill 6. Kelly 7. Woods
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29 Oct 20 8.09pm

We have loads of options at CB but how do they rank in order of ability and importance? Here’s my top 7...
1. Sakho
2. Tomkins
3. Kouyate
4. Dann
5. Cahill
6. Kelly
7. Woods

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 29 Oct 20 8.12pm
Originally posted by BM We have loads of options at CB but how do they rank in order of ability and importance? Here’s my top 7... 1. Sakho 2. Tomkins 3. Kouyate 4. Dann 5. Cahill 6. Kelly 7. Woods Wind up "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 29 Oct 20 8.12pm

Originally posted by BM

We have loads of options at CB but how do they rank in order of ability and importance? Here’s my top 7...
1. Sakho
2. Tomkins
3. Kouyate
4. Dann
5. Cahill
6. Kelly
7. Woods

Wind up

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Oct 20 9.44pm
That's what it looks like and I'm not going to bite! Edited by doombear (29 Oct 2020 9.44pm)
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Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Oct 20 9.44pm

That's what it looks like and I'm not going to bite!

Edited by doombear (29 Oct 2020 9.44pm)

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the.universal 29 Oct 20 10.03pm
As far as wind ups go, it’s not very subtle is it. Vive le Roy!
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the.universal 29 Oct 20 10.03pm

As far as wind ups go, it’s not very subtle is it.

Vive le Roy!

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sprites Auckland 30 Oct 20 2.25am
I think you need to separate ability and importance. If the rankings are on pure ability, you're probably not far off. But in terms of importance, it'd look a bit different. Cahill and Dann's experience and leadership, for example, is invaluable. So while Sakho might be a bettter football player (and I believe he is)...is he that much better to warrant leaving those experienced guys out? Not sure. For me, having one of each makes sense. So I think when everyone's fit, a Sakho-Tomkins or Sakho-Cahill partnership works bestt.
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Auckland 30 Oct 20 2.25am

I think you need to separate ability and importance.
If the rankings are on pure ability, you're probably not far off. But in terms of importance, it'd look a bit different. Cahill and Dann's experience and leadership, for example, is invaluable. So while Sakho might be a bettter football player (and I believe he is)...is he that much better to warrant leaving those experienced guys out? Not sure. For me, having one of each makes sense. So I think when everyone's fit, a Sakho-Tomkins or Sakho-Cahill partnership works bestt.

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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 30 Oct 20 2.42am
Originally posted by BM We have loads of options at CB but how do they rank in order of ability and importance? Here’s my top 7... 1. Sakho 2. Tomkins 3. Kouyate 4. Dann 5. Cahill 6. Kelly 7. Woods I dont think theres any doubting from a pure class point of view Sakho was unreal when he first came to us... Unfortunately he has that mental streak in him and can, at any given moment just do something completely mental.. However now hes been here a while I genuinely think the guy has no commitment. Hes just picking up a large pay cheque and I doubt if half his injuries he picks up are even genuine... That's just my opinion.. The sooner hes off the wage bill the better cos I just dont think the guy wants to be here. Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!
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Originally posted by BM

We have loads of options at CB but how do they rank in order of ability and importance? Here’s my top 7...
1. Sakho
2. Tomkins
3. Kouyate
4. Dann
5. Cahill
6. Kelly
7. Woods

I dont think theres any doubting from a pure class point of view Sakho was unreal when he first came to us... Unfortunately he has that mental streak in him and can, at any given moment just do something completely mental..

However now hes been here a while I genuinely think the guy has no commitment. Hes just picking up a large pay cheque and I doubt if half his injuries he picks up are even genuine... That's just my opinion.. The sooner hes off the wage bill the better cos I just dont think the guy wants to be here.

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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BM 30 Oct 20 8.35am
Originally posted by sprites I think you need to separate ability and importance. If the rankings are on pure ability, you're probably not far off. But in terms of importance, it'd look a bit different. Cahill and Dann's experience and leadership, for example, is invaluable. So while Sakho might be a bettter football player (and I believe he is)...is he that much better to warrant leaving those experienced guys out? Not sure. For me, having one of each makes sense. So I think when everyone's fit, a Sakho-Tomkins or Sakho-Cahill partnership works bestt. Thanks for a sensible response. Why on earth would my choices be a wind-up? The downer people have on Sakho is weird and wrong. He reads situations brilliantly, is immensely strong and his passing is crucial in launching attacks. Yes, he has an error in him but they all do and his get scrutinised far more than other defenders (eg. Ward v Brighton). He and Tomkins were our first choice for a long time and I still think they are our best two, although we are lucky to have such strength in that position. I respect what Cahill has achieved in his career but I think many Palace fans have an inflated view of how good he is. For me he looks to knock it back to Guiata too often rather than be a bit braver in his passing options.
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30 Oct 20 8.35am

Originally posted by sprites

Thanks for a sensible response. Why on earth would my choices be a wind-up? The downer people have on Sakho is weird and wrong. He reads situations brilliantly, is immensely strong and his passing is crucial in launching attacks. Yes, he has an error in him but they all do and his get scrutinised far more than other defenders (eg. Ward v Brighton).
He and Tomkins were our first choice for a long time and I still think they are our best two, although we are lucky to have such strength in that position.
I respect what Cahill has achieved in his career but I think many Palace fans have an inflated view of how good he is. For me he looks to knock it back to Guiata too often rather than be a bit braver in his passing options.

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OldFella London 30 Oct 20 8.52am
Originally posted by BM Thanks for a sensible response. Why on earth would my choices be a wind-up? The downer people have on Sakho is weird and wrong. He reads situations brilliantly, is immensely strong and his passing is crucial in launching attacks. Yes, he has an error in him but they all do and his get scrutinised far more than other defenders (eg. Ward v Brighton). He and Tomkins were our first choice for a long time and I still think they are our best two, although we are lucky to have such strength in that position. I respect what Cahill has achieved in his career but I think many Palace fans have an inflated view of how good he is. For me he looks to knock it back to Guiata too often rather than be a bit braver in his passing options. Continued wind up. Or just attention seeking. Also not biting. Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..
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London 30 Oct 20 8.52am

Originally posted by BM

Continued wind up. Or just attention seeking. Also not biting.

Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

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stayloa Beckenham 30 Oct 20 9.00am
Originally posted by BM We have loads of options at CB but how do they rank in order of ability and importance? Here’s my top 7... 1. Sakho 2. Tomkins 3. Kouyate 4. Dann 5. Cahill 6. Kelly 7. Woods Can't agree with this at all personally. Mine woudl be: 1. Cahill 2. Tomkins 3. Dann 4. Kouyate 5. Sakho 6. Kelly 7. Woods Cahill whilst slow is absolutely immense in terms of positioning and leadership. Him and Tomkins (when fit) are my top 2. Kouyate has been amazing stepping in, but prefer him at DM when he can get forward more. Dann pips third place for me as he's stepped up when needed having been out of the team for an age and has been superb. Sakho on his day could be #1, but too many flicks, attemped Cruyff turns, stumbling or just plain falling over for no reason means he can't be higher up the list for me. There's a howler every game and it often costs a goal. Give me slow and dependable any day! All that said, any of those top 6 are decent and premier league quality, so no complaints from me!
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Beckenham 30 Oct 20 9.00am

Originally posted by BM

We have loads of options at CB but how do they rank in order of ability and importance? Here’s my top 7...
1. Sakho
2. Tomkins
3. Kouyate
4. Dann
5. Cahill
6. Kelly
7. Woods

Can't agree with this at all personally. Mine woudl be:

1. Cahill
2. Tomkins
3. Dann
4. Kouyate
5. Sakho
6. Kelly
7. Woods

Cahill whilst slow is absolutely immense in terms of positioning and leadership. Him and Tomkins (when fit) are my top 2.

Kouyate has been amazing stepping in, but prefer him at DM when he can get forward more. Dann pips third place for me as he's stepped up when needed having been out of the team for an age and has been superb.

Sakho on his day could be #1, but too many flicks, attemped Cruyff turns, stumbling or just plain falling over for no reason means he can't be higher up the list for me. There's a howler every game and it often costs a goal. Give me slow and dependable any day!

All that said, any of those top 6 are decent and premier league quality, so no complaints from me!

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 30 Oct 20 9.05am
Kouyate and Cahill best two, Tomkins next “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 30 Oct 20 9.05am

Kouyate and Cahill best two, Tomkins next

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Arthur Blackpudding 30 Oct 20 9.51am
1. Cahill 2. Tomkins 3. Kouyate 4. Dann 5. Sakho 6. Kelly 7. Woods
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1. Cahill
2. Tomkins
3. Kouyate
4. Dann
5. Sakho
6. Kelly
7. Woods

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 30 Oct 20 10.33am
The order is subjective, I get that. The only nailed on position is Cahill at number one. After that they can fight among themselves. 60 plus England caps, champion league winner etc. None of the others ever got close to this. How he would be anyone’s number five shows you are either a wind up merchant, know f@ck all about football or both. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 30 Oct 20 10.33am

The order is subjective, I get that.

The only nailed on position is Cahill at number one. After that they can fight among themselves.

60 plus England caps, champion league winner etc. None of the others ever got close to this. How he would be anyone’s number five shows you are either a wind up merchant, know f@ck all about football or both.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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